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May 14[edit]

Adding an author to the site[edit]

My mother is Author Amelia Hutchins, she was raised and born in Spokane Washington. I am trying to get her added to authors from Spokane Washington's notable people.

She's a Wall Street Journal Bestseller, and has been on the USAT Bestselling chart numerous times.

Wall Street Journal link, under E-books for February 5th. https://www.wsj.com/articles/bestselling-books-week-ended-february-5-11644526690

USA Today Bestselling list is April 29th, 2021, August 5th, 2021, and February 10th, 2022

She was born in Sacred Heart, and has lived here her whole life. She's got over 30 books published, and took the charts by herself when they said it couldn't be done. I would like her to open wiki and see herself here, in the city she loves. Site we'd like to have her added to. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_from_Spokane,_Washington

Thank you so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.16.121.67 (talk) 05:51, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That would depend on whether she is considered notable enough to satisfy Wikipedia's notability guidelines for authors; in the event that she is, an article about her would be made first before being added to List of people from Spokane, Washington. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:59, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I would hope that her telling publisher's she'd just do it herself, and then doing it three times and landing on a larger list than the one they turned her down for would do it. She is one of only a few independent authors to take the WSJ without a publisher. She's pretty badass in my book considering they said it wouldn't sell, and she's sold over one million copies of just one of thirty books. Thanks for the help. 24.16.121.67 (talk) 06:12, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia does not care about where an author was born and raised, and Spokane authors are no more notable than Mumbai authors or Tokyo authors or Lagos authors or Indianapolis authors. What is so special about Spokane? Disclosure: My great-grandparents were wheat farmers near Spokane their entire adult lives, but who cares? What matters is not listings on publishing industry backscratching bestseller lists, which are notoriously subject to manipulation. What matters are reviews of the author's books, written by professional or academic reviewers, that appear in highly reliable publications. Cullen328 (talk) 06:31, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It looks to me that WP:NAUTHOR wants more than reviews of books; it wants the author to be regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers, or else has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews. It sounds like just having "ordinary" books reviewed is not enough, unless those books are significant. Am I interpreting that correctly? 73.127.147.187 (talk) 10:48, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
IP editor, you have uderstood NAUTHOR, but an author could also be notable if they satisfy WP:NBASIC "People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published[1] secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other,[2] and independent of the subject.[3]". TSventon (talk) 12:18, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks fir that info, @TSventon. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 11:03, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ What constitutes a "published work" is deliberately broad.
  2. ^ Sources that are pure derivatives of an original source can be used as references, but do not contribute toward establishing the notability of a subject. "Intellectual independence" requires not only that the content of sources be non-identical, but also that the entirety of content in a published work not be derived from (or based in) another work (partial derivations are acceptable). For example, a speech by a politician about a particular person contributes toward establishing the notability of that person, but multiple reproductions of the transcript of that speech by different news outlets do not. A biography written about a person contributes toward establishing their notability, but a summary of that biography lacking an original intellectual contribution does not.
  3. ^ Autobiography and self-promotion are not the routes to having an encyclopedia article. The barometer of notability is whether people independent of the subject itself have actually considered the subject notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works that focus upon it. Thus, entries in biographical dictionaries that accept self-nominations (such as the Marquis Who's Who) do not contribute toward notability, nor do web pages about an organization's own staff or members.

Changing photo on page[edit]

How can I change the photo on a page - the page is Adrian Grogan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gail Grogan (talkcontribs) 09:12, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adrian Grogan currently has an ok official portrait in the infobox. Since he is a living person, the new image would have to be freely licensed (ie not copyrighted in any way). You can upload files to Wikimedia Commons here.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 09:35, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Gail Grogan Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. WP is very careful about copyright, but if you are in close contact with him, this can be fairly easy.
Take a new (previously unpublished anywhere) picture of him yourself, and then upload it with the process that starts here. That is a link to Commons, a sister-site where we keep "free" images. Unless other editors think it's a worse picture, it can then be used in the article, but a newer image should be considerd a +. You can then comment here again, and hopefully someone will be willing to help or at least comment. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:27, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adding photo to existing article[edit]

I discovered an article about my great aunt Eveline Burchill! Quite impressive too! I’d like to add a photo, how do I go about doing that? Thanks ☺️ — Preceding unsigned comment added by LEOleeBrother (talkcontribs) 14:16, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

LEOleeBrother Please see files for upload. 331dot (talk) 14:21, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Copyright of photos is tricky (it usually belongs to the photographer), so the very best to use will be one you took yourself, LEOleeBrother or one taken by another family member whose estate you have now inherited, for example. One possibility, since Eveline Burchill is dead, you could take a screenshot from the RTE video I note is on their website and upload that under the "fair use" provisions (see WP:FAIRUSE). Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:42, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Israel in the Eurovision[edit]

In the 'Commentators and spokespersons' section, the word 'Delayed' should be removed from the year 1997, but I don't know how to edit it without ruining the table. Can someone please assist me? KobiNew (talk) 15:38, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 04:29, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, but now the period of 1985-2017 should have one "No commentator", not three... KobiNew (talk) 20:35, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

HiJacked account.[edit]

I've just got an email saying: "Someone (probably you, from IP address 160.20.148.17) has requested to reset your Wikipedia password (<https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainpage>). The following user account is associated with this email address: User name: Aspro" Well it wasn't me and I can't now sign in. What do I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:BD01:7801:F126:A90F:D6E5:A628 (talk) 15:56, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See here. As it says, "Please contact ca@wikimedia.org if you cannot log in as a result of compromise". If the password for the username has been reset, someone must have known the email address associated with it.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 16:01, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
For what it's worth, User: Aspro has been indefinitely blocked for over four years. Cullen328 (talk) 18:24, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
On the Dutch Wikipedia too? Clarityfiend (talk) 22:41, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
They're unblocked on nl.wikipedia but have 0 edits there. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 04:18, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, if the account is compromised, someone will probably lock it, preventing anyone from logging in.[1] I.hate.spam.mail.here (talk | contributions) 04:22, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Compromised accounts". Wikimedia Meta-wiki. Retrieved 15 May 2022. Reasons to request a global lock: Accounts that are suspected to have been compromised, as a temporary measure to maintain account security until the owner is contacted.

out of order[edit]

you guys have the friday the 13th movies out of order , a new beginng comes before the final chapter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.1.232.187 (talk) 21:20, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Film lists like Friday the 13th (franchise)#Films are always in release order unless otherwise stated, but I think you are also wrong if you refer to in-universe order. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:25, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Caleb Blood Smith[edit]

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Why do you have that Smith is buried in Connersville, Indiana, that is NOT true! Years ago I sent proof that Caleb B. Smith was not buried in Connersville, the history books say that because that's what Elizabeth (Watton) Smith wanted everyone to think. But that's not the truth. Elizabeth Smith wanted everyone to think that because after the Civil War the Southern dissenters were coming from south to north descrating bodies and Elizabeth was terrified that they would do that to her husband. Smith was first buried in Greenlawn cemetery in Indianapolis, then Crownhill Cemetery opened about 6 months later and she paid $500 for a plot of her choice to have Smith buried in, but he wasn't buried there either. (A 1977 opening of the mausoleum at Crown Hill proved that, only his wife and daughter were buried there.)

A 1977 excavation, that I attended and wrote about in the Connersville, Indiana City Cemetery was carried out in the Watton lot, or Watton-Smith lot, and Smith was found not to be there. The body that was found was Smiths brother-in-law William Watton Jr. There is a story that has pictures, letters, and consent to excavate along with other valuable information - here at https://archive.org/details/WeirdMystery/page/n51/mode/2up

Caleb Blood Smith owned a home in Connersville, now refered to as Elmhurst and it's on Wikipedia. It has been said that Smith was buried in the basement of Elmhurst, but that's never been proven. There is a lot of speculation on where Smith has been buried, for example under the mausoluem at Crown Hill, or in Cincinnati or even behind Elmhurst. There is a graveyard behind Elmhurst. I also can't imagine that Smith would be buried at Elmhurst because he left and went to Indianapolis and died there. So I can't imagine his wife asking if they could bury a body in the basement.

I've got a lot of info on Smith that I've found and it's all documented information, old news paper clippings, and stories from family members. Letters inquiring about the location of Smith, and recent news articles about Smith and where he's buried. No one knows, no one will probably ever know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sensionson (talkcontribs) 22:00, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you have that Smith is buried in Connersville, Indiana, that is NOT true! Years ago I sent proof that Caleb B. Smith was not buried in Connersville, the history books say that because that's what Elizabeth (Watton) Smith wanted everyone to think. But that's not the truth. Elizabeth Smith wanted everyone to think that because after the Civil War the Southern dissenters were coming from south to north descrating bodies and Elizabeth was terrified that they would do that to her husband. Smith was first buried in Greenlawn cemetery in Indianapolis, then Crownhill Cemetery opened about 6 months later and she paid $500 for a plot of her choice to have Smith buried in, but he wasn't buried there either. (A 1977 opening of the mausoleum at Crown Hill proved that, only his wife and daughter were buried there.)

A 1977 excavation, that I attended and wrote about in the Connersville, Indiana City Cemetery was carried out in the Watton lot, or Watton-Smith lot, and Smith was found not to be there. The body that was found was Smiths brother-in-law William Watton Jr. There is a story that has pictures, letters, and consent to excavate along with other valuable information - here at https://archive.org/details/WeirdMystery/page/n51/mode/2up

Caleb Blood Smith owned a home in Connersville, now refered to as Elmhurst and it's on Wikipedia. It has been said that Smith was buried in the basement of Elmhurst, but that's never been proven. There is a lot of speculation on where Smith has been buried, for example under the mausoluem at Crown Hill, or in Cincinnati or even behind Elmhurst. There is a graveyard behind Elmhurst. I also can't imagine that Smith would be buried at Elmhurst because he left and went to Indianapolis and died there. So I can't imagine his wife asking if they could bury a body in the basement.

I've got a lot of info on Smith that I've found and it's all documented information, old news paper clippings, and stories from family members. Letters inquiring about the location of Smith, and recent news articles about Smith and where he's buried. No one knows, no one will probably ever know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sensionson (talkcontribs) 22:03, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Sensionson: If you have reliable published sources, online or not, then you can edit the Caleb Blood Smith article yourself. If you do not wish to edit the article, please discuss this on the article's talk page at talk:Caleb Blood Smith instead of here at the help desk.----

@Sensionson:, I looked at your source and I don't think we can use it, but there's enough there that I don't feel comfortable anymore stating with virtually 100% certainty that he is buried in Collinsville, so I think the best solution is to remove mention of his burial location altogether, and this I have done. There's more on the article talk page if you wish to engage further, see you there. Herostratus (talk) 00:44, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't care anymore, you can stick it where the sun don't shine, others have accepted it and know it's true, and my story about it has been in several newspapers because of the proof that I have. . and it's CONNERSVILLE, not Collinsville dumbass. Have a nice day. Sensionson (talk) 01:59, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sensionson, someone out of the hundreds of people who have edited the article in its past 18 years of existence must have thought Connorsville was correct, or they wouldn't have added the (false?) information (it would be possible, but tedious, to find out who) but without a reliable source to cite, the article shouldn't say it, or for that matter say where else his body might be. It is of course possible that it was, at some point, interred in Connersville and later moved to somewhere else unknown.
We could include at least some of the information you are putting forward if it has (a) been published in a reliable source (WP:RS) that has editorially checked its accuracy, and not just reprinted self-reported original research (which Wikipedia never uses), and (b) that source is correctly cited. Wikipedia does not permit in-text external links, see Wikipedia:Citing sources). It is up to the person adding the information to cite correctly, not to leave the job half-done and expect someone else to clear up the mess. You were reverted for incorrectly using external links as long ago as 2013 (by a bot, not a person), but seemingly have not learned any better in the 9 years since.
This is a collaborative project in which (nearly) everybody is trying to co-operate to build an encyclopedia. Boldly editing (as you correctly did), Reverting the edit if thought inappropriate (as Herostratus correctly did), and then civilly Discussing the matter is all part of the standard WP:BRD process: acting aggressively and insulting other editors is not. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.208.88.97 (talk) 23:07, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Page Translations[edit]

I used the translate feature to translate an article from Italian wiki into English. I over-wrote nearly every word of the machine translation into neutral wikipedia style, as required. I then saved it to work on it later rather than Publish it, but now I can't seem to find it. Where does one find drafts of a translated article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amantedelcinema83 (talkcontribs) 23:03, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Amantedelcinema83: This question is your only edit to Wikipedia, so your work was not "saved". What action did you take that you think would have "saved" it? The way you "save" something (including your question here) is to hit the miss-named "publish" button. -Arch dude (talk) 23:10, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Amantedelcinema83: It sounds like Arch dude doesn't know Wikipedia:Content translation tool which works differently from other editing. Unpublished translations in progress should be visible at Special:ContentTranslation but machine translation is disabled in the tool at the English Wikipedia so I'm not sure what you were doing. Also, new users cannot publish translations here. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:14, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I found it, thank you. What are my options? Should I simply create a new page in English Wikipedia? Amantedelcinema83 (talk) 06:17, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Amantedelcinema83: As a new user you can only create it as a draft and submit it for review. The source article must be credited. See Help:Translation and Wikipedia:Articles for creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:00, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your help. Amantedelcinema83 (talk) 18:34, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Even if the current draft is mostly in your own words, you should follow the guidance at WP:TRANSLATE, in particular to credit the Italian source you used. You can copy/paste your current version into a new draft you set up using the WP:AFC process. Later, you can submit the cleaned-up draft for review, so experienced editors can confirm it meets our standards for new articles on English Wikipedia. Thanks for wanting to help expand the encyclopaedia. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:04, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the help. Amantedelcinema83 (talk) 18:34, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

May 15[edit]

Problem with Creating Draft[edit]

Problem solved! — Preceding unsigned comment added by JudithMHWhite48 (talkcontribs) 02:43, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is it useful to add "language" parameter to English citations?[edit]

{{Cite web}} says: "When the only source language is English, no language is displayed in the citation." I see some editors add "language" parameter to English refs. Does it improve the ref? Is it useful? --Mann Mann (talk) 05:50, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say WP:If it ain't broke, don't fix it. No it isn't useful. So far, the language parameter, if English, doesn't modify the reference in any way, but it doesn't break it either. Not worth wasting time and effort and getting into needless edit wars with others who add this needless parameter. CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {CX}) 06:03, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@CX Zoom: Thanks for the reply. I agree with you. I wanted to remove it from the articles I watch and edit. But as you said, it's better to ignore such stuff. --Mann Mann (talk) 06:26, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've also seen (but can't remember where) a suggestion to keep the tags as they can help Wikipedians working to translate articles for our sister projects. I haven't done translation work, so I don't know how much of a benefit they are. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:37, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Some tools automatically add language to items, you can safely remove them if they do - but it's usually pointless changing. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 23:04, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Firefangledfeathers and Lee Vilenski: Interesting info, thanks. --Mann Mann (talk) 03:04, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Automatic redirection for broken links[edit]

Hello. I would like to change the section title of some articles. But that would break many links to there. Do you know if there is a mean (say a robot) to redirect the links automatically to the new title. I mean, if I change "The surface integral" to "surface integral" for example, I would like to use a robot to say it: change every link to "the surface integral" to the new link "surface integral". Thx. maimonid (talk) 08:35, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Cewbot 6 does try to fix these. Galobtter (pingó mió) 09:13, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you @Galobtter. But I'm not sure I understand this bot: If I change the title of a section completely say, and leave the content of the section unchanged, will the bot do its work (automatically)? maimonid (talk) 10:55, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Maimonid: I believe that one can use Template:Anchor in such a case. If you create an anchor in a heading, with the former name of the section (such as ==Surface integral{{subst:anchor|The surface integral}}==), links to the old name of the section will still work even after you change the name. Deor (talk) 13:07, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Deor: Thank you so many for this answer; that's exactly what I needed.maimonid (talk) 06:04, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New article[edit]

Hello

I'm new to wikipedia but very interested in making my contributions. How ever I don't seem to be able to make new articles. Why is that and how can I do it?

Regards, Lárus Sigurður. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lárus Sigurður (talkcontribs) 13:35, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia editing Lárus Sigurður. New editors are prevented from creating articles directly into Mainspace, as experience tells us they often don't do a good job. However they can use the articles for creation system which among other things allows experienced editors to review and accept/decline/reject the work. Please read WP:YFA or start by improving one of our existing articles in an area you are interested in — that way you'll learn the ropes before you tackle the bigger challenge of writing something from scratch. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:51, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)Welcome to Wikipedia. In most cases, new accounts cannot create articles until they are 4 days old and have made 10 edits. I would recommend creating your first article in draft space and submitting it through WP:AFC so that you get feedback from experienced users. I also would not recommend trying to create a new article until you've been around for a while working on improving existing articles and are significantly familiar with the confusing maze of policies and guidelines that govern content here. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 13:58, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What links here[edit]

I'd like to see this link-list [1] with links from templates like Template:Underwater diving excluded. Is that possible? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:05, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You can select the Template namespace from the dropdown near the top and then check the box that says "Invert selection". Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:06, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Firefangledfeathers Thanks, but that doesn't seem to work [2]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:14, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I can't solve the general problem, but a Wikipedia search for "History of Diving Museum" finds "History of Diving Museum" plus five other articles before it starts finding articles with Template:Underwater diving. Only the first two are links. TSventon (talk) 16:41, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That does help a bit, thanks. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:47, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This search?
Trappist the monk (talk) 17:25, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Trappist the monk, thank you, that confirms my conclusion, is Help:Searching a good place to find what you just did, or is there anything simpler? TSventon (talk) 18:51, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Help:Searching is how I knew to try that search. What do you mean by simpler? Simpler search, simpler documentation, simpler something else?
Trappist the monk (talk) 18:55, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Trappist the monk I meant simpler documentation, to see if my Google search had found the simplest available explanation of what you had done. TSventon (talk) 20:58, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Trappist the monk Can you also make a search for only the unlinked "History of Diving Museum" in mainspace? I can of course briefly remove it from the template and then search. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:15, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This search?
Trappist the monk (talk) 11:29, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Trappist the monk You're a wizard, thanks! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:53, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
User:PrimeHunter/Source links.js can search for links which are in the source and not only a transcluded template. It eliminates all templates at the same time and still finds articles which both have a link in the source and a template. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:39, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for all the helpful replies! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:07, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Josquin des Prez image scaling[edit]

In my work on Josquin des Prez for FAR, I was trying to make the lead image a little larger, as it is rather small. For FAs we're told not to use px size (I have no idea why) so I was trying to use 'upright=1.7' (or whatever number worked nicely) but for some reason this isn't altering the size of the image in preview? Aza24 (talk) 19:13, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Aza24. I don't think that pixel size has anything to do with the article being a candidate for FA status; rather it has to do with WP:THUMBSIZE and other MOS:ACCIM issues. Thumbnail images shouldn't really be fixed to certain pixel size because that forces the same size on all readers regardless of the device they're using or how they've set their preferences. If you want to resize an image and it's a thumbnail, you should file the guidance in MOS:UPRIGHT and scale the image instead. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:08, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of my name[edit]

Dear Wikipedia, Due to privacy reasons I’d like my page to be deleted. The page is for Phyllis Grant. I don’t like having my personal info on the internet. I’m deleting all my presence. Please help! Phyllis Grant [redacted] to discuss. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Balin80 (talkcontribs) 22:51, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Phillis, I have redacted your contact number: it's a bad idea to publish it in a public forum like this, particularly if you have privacy concerns. I will shortly ask an Admin to remove it from the page history where it can still be seen if someone looks. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.208.88.97 (talk) 23:14, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah. I find I cannot email the Oversight Team myself (not having an account or registered email). Could someone else please do it? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.208.88.97 (talk) 23:18, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for removing it! I thought this was a private message platform! -Phyllis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Balin80 (talkcontribs) 23:17, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As to removing the article, Wikipedia does not routinely do that merely at the request of the subject (which, strictly speaking, we do not at this point have proof you, Balin80, are, although I am assuming it). After all, everything in the article should be cited to published, publicly available sources. I see that it's quite lightly referenced, so someone may decide that it could be argued not to demonstrate sufficient Notability (in the sense of not having enough independent documentation to qualify for a Wikipedia article – nothing to do with your actual prominence in the Real World!), and nominate it for Deletion. I will leave such matters to editors with more experience in this field. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.208.88.97 (talk) 23:28, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a way I could provide proof of who I am? At any rate, I hope it has insufficient independent documentation. I’m surprised there’s so much info on the wiki page: my age, where I live specifically, my affiliations. I am a well-known artist in Canada, yes, but it makes me feel uneasy seeing photos that someone had to really dig for posted on my wiki page from ages ago (I tried to remove it, I’m sure it’ll be added back). I enjoy wiki but I don’t think people should have access to so much of my personal life. Thanks so much for your help. I wish there was a way I could prove I’m the person in the article! -Phyllis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Balin80 (talkcontribs) 23:38, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. We publish articles about notable subjects, using information from published reliable sources. The article does not belong to you and we do not give you any permission to control the article, so there is no reason for you to prove who you are to us. However, we really do try hard to consider your privacy concerns so we insist that any information at all about a living person is properly referenced: see WP:BLP. If you or any one of us sees anything in the article that is not referenced, then we are supposed remove that information. -Arch dude (talk) 02:34, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Balin80: The Phyllis Grant article has now been nominated for deletion. The nominator said that the references are insufficient, but this is not a valid reason for deletion. I went ahead and also recommended it for deletion because there does not seem to be anything in the article that indicates that the subject is notable by our definition, which is a different issue. Note that Phyllis Grant may eventually do something that makes her notable, and it that happens, someone may create an article and she will have no control over it. -Arch dude (talk) 02:55, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Arch dude:, you didn't sign your post to the deletion discussion. TSventon (talk) 03:03, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome, thanks Arch dude! -Phyllis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Balin80 (talkcontribs) 03:00, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok! Thank you. -Phyllis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Balin80 (talkcontribs) 02:50, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a bit confused about what to do now[edit]

I reverted this edit because it looked like content removal without an adequate reason. But then the same IP reverted my edit with this edit summary:

Big Lies! Liar! Liar! That's a Big Lie! Don't Do That or You are Grounded!

(The diff is here)

Should I revert again (this is the 2nd out of three reverts if I revert again)? I.hate.spam.mail.here (talk | contributions) 22:53, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@I.hate.spam.mail.here: Reverting clear cases of vandalisim or other disruptive editing would most likely be considered and exception to the three-revert rule per WP:NOT3RR; at some point, though, it might simply be better to seek assistance from an administrator at WP:AN, WP:AN3 or WP:AIV per WP:DENY. An administrator may decide to block the account in question to prevent any further disruption or may decide to protect the article instead. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:21, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And also, does anyone know why the edit that added this section was suppressed? I.hate.spam.mail.here (talk | contributions) 04:20, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
When a edit is suppressed or revision deleted, there's usually a good reason for doing so that almost certainly can't be discussed in specifics on any public page. If you want to see who suppressed the edit on a page, you can usually find out by looking at the page's history or checking the page's log. In almost all cases, you find an edit summary listing to policy based reason why the edit needed to be surpressed or revision deleted. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:33, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Marchjuly,I.hate.spam.mail.here: when an edit was suppressed, it won't show in any public log entries. Suppression is logged in the non-public suppression log, which is inaccessible with exception to oversighters, arbcom, stewards, ombudsmen and some WMF staff. In this case it seems the edit had to be suppressed because someone added private data in #Removal of my name above, which was not removed until after this section was created. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 05:31, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for clarifying things Victor Schmidt. @I.hate.spam.mail.here: if you really want to know why an edit was suppressed, you might have to contact an WP:OVERSIGHTer directly and ask. They might only just give you a general explaination like Victor did in this case. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:38, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Got it, thanks @Marchjuly and @Victor Schmidt mobil. I.hate.spam.mail.here (talk | contributions) 05:54, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

May 16[edit]

Need to create page for Marci Collier Overstreet[edit]

{{UserboxCOI|1=Title of your draft}


Please help me create my page with the correct name. I’ve submitted the information more than once. I need help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macmama3 (talkcontribs) 02:01, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Macmama3. If you would like to create an article about someone named Marci Collier Overstreet, then you can try as long as Overstreet satisfies Wikipedia:Notability (people) or Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. If you feel Overstreet is Wikipedia notable, then my suggestion to you would be to first read this and this, and then start working on a draft for an article as explained here. Once you feel your draft is ready for review, you can submit it for assessment. If you are somehow personally or professionally connected to Overstreet or have been asked by Overstreet of their representatives to create such a Wikipedia article, you should also take a look at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest for additional information that most likely applies to you. This doesn't necessarily mean that you can't try to create an article about Overstreet, but it might mean that there are more things you need to consider when doing so. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:27, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Macmama3: You seemed, judging by your sandbox, to be concerned that the Wikipedia article Atlanta City Council had Overstreet's forename as Marcia rather than Marci. I've made that uncontroversial change since their website confirms that simple fact. As to whether she is notable enough for a full article, that's another question, and Marchjuly has given you good guidance. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:36, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

museumvictoria.com.au needs update to museumsvictoria.com.au[edit]

Changing capitalization of a redirect page[edit]

The capitalization of the redirect page Linus media group (which redirects to a section of Linus Sebastian) should be changed to Linus Media Group (this is a minor gripe). When requesting to Move the page, it warns that Linus media group will redirect to the new "Linus Media Group" and to avoid creating double redirects. To me, this seems to imply that the redirects will be Linus media group → Linus Media Group → Linus Sebastian, which should be avoided.

Am I wrong about this? Is there any problem with moving the redirect? Is it even worth the effort?

Worst Username (talk) 02:36, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's generally pointless to move redirects. A redirect at Linus Media Group pointing to the same place already exists, so there is no need to do anything. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:38, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. I didn't even realize that redirect already existed. It just bugged me that the search showed the incorrectly capitalized version. But this whole thing is of very little consequence anyway. Worst Username (talk) 02:44, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia page approval[edit]

I submitted a wikipedia page for approval about 5 months ago+. How can I find out when it will become active? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CINEMA143 (talkcontribs) 06:55, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@CINEMA143 You will not like to hear this, but you didn't actually submit it. Assuming it's Draft:Eric Berger. Try this link: WP:SUBMIT. Also, Wikipedia itself and Linkedin are mostly useless as sources on WP, you should remove them and content based on them. Your hurdle is WP:BASIC, if you don't meet the demands there the article will not be accepted. If WP:COI applies to you, please follow the guidance there. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:23, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see you did know about COI, never mind. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:25, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Does This Page Qualify For Speedy?[edit]

The article for Ammon Covino, one of the operators of SeaQuest, is nothing but a list of court cases which have been filed against him. While all the existing info is properly sourced, there's no biographical information about him, just the list of crimes. Would this be eligible for speedy as an "attack page?" Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 07:01, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't look to me like it fits the G10 Speedy criteria. Looking at Wikipedia:Attack page, there seem to be two relatively separate ways to assess this: (1) It "exists primarily to disparage or threaten its subject". It's clearly not threatening. To say it is primarily to disparage the subject doesn't seem solid enough to speedy the article; there may simply be little notable information about him other than that determined by the courts. (2) It gives "biographical material about a living person that is entirely negative in tone and unsourced." The data may all be negative but the tone seems neutral, and in any case the data is sourced. - R. S. Shaw (talk) 01:04, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

Should references that require a subscription to view the page a reference links to, should it be allowed on Wikipedia? Toad40 (talk) 15:02, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Toad40 A paywall or any form of payment required to view a source is not a barrier to using it on Wikipedia, see WP:PAYWALL. 331dot (talk) 15:03, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Toad40 Some of the best sources out there are subscription based, e.g. scientific journals. Per WP:SOURCEACCESS Do not reject reliable sources just because they are difficult or costly to access. If you need help accessing a source there are places you can check, e.g. WikiProject Resource Exchange or The Wikipedia Library. 163.1.15.238 (talk) 15:21, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Companies Wiki Pages Are Still Not Up[edit]

Hi, I had a two wikipedia pages made about two months ago by this user for M3 Printing and Philadelphia Business Services. User page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Klikachova

I was just wondering how long they take to get posted (if of course they pass through moderators). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.14.201.154 (talk) 18:13, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Make sure that you are logged in before posting. 331dot (talk) 18:16, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The last two draft by that account were declined, please monitor the drafts for comment. 331dot (talk) 18:18, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And when you say you had them made, does that mean you paid that editor to create them? Joseph2302 (talk) 18:23, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Neither of those drafts demonstrates that either company meets Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). Not even close. The quality is poor. Cullen328 (talk) 19:50, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. It sounds from your choice of words ("Companies Wiki Pages") that you have a very common misconception about Wikipedia: the idea that an article about a company (or anything else) is any way for the benefit of that company. It is not. It does not belong to the company, it is not controlled by the company, and it will not necessarily say what the company would like it to say. Please see WP:NOTPROMO and WP:PROUD. ColinFine (talk) 20:26, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Proxy Block Immediately Changed into One Year Block[edit]

I'm an OG editor since 2003. Not prolific lately, but I used to be.

I had an IP block due to proxy. I appealed. Admin denied, saying "no, you have a proxy". I realized I was using Apple Private Relay. I turned it off.

I'm still blocked, but now it says "blocked for 1 year" unrelated to IP. I guess that's a vandalism block. Can't imagine why I'd get that.

I'm not sure what's going on, and don't want to bug the admins again after they heard and rejected my appeal. Anyone have an idea? FWIW, no notices of any kind were posted on my "talk" page. O. Pen Sauce (talk) 18:42, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@O. Pen Sauce: It doesn't look like your account itself has ever been blocked. Perhaps you should talk to whichever administrator you were talking to? It doesn't seem you've done so here on Wikipedia if I'm going by your recent contributions. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:18, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Tenryuu: Thanks! I wasn't really "talking" to an admin, I just got a high-handed verdict on my appeal (I understand...the people handling them are overwhelmed). However, suddenly, editing works. No idea why!O. Pen Sauce (talk) 19:45, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@O. Pen Sauce: your non-proxy IP may be blocked and you might've been logged out briefly without realizing. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:47, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]


May 17[edit]

Birth date and age template[edit]

Hello. Will the birth date and age template automatically update the age. I have seen multiple infoboxes without an updated age. Cherrell410 (talk) 01:28, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it calculates the age automatically. Infoboxes without an updated age are probably not using a template but instead just put in the age at the time as text. MB 03:00, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Cherrell410:If you think you have seen a problem then please always give an example. The English Wikipedia uses UTC so the age changes at midnight UTC on the birthday, not local time of the subject. Pages are cached so if the page is not edited or purged, it may show the old age for a while. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:17, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DYK problem[edit]

I recently nominated an article about Enkeli-Elisa for WP:DYK at Template:Did you know nominations/Enkeli-Elisa, about a story of a 15-year-old girl who committed suicide because she had been bullied at school, which turned out to be a hoax, but the DYK process ran into problems. What do I need to do next to make the DYK process complete? JIP | Talk 01:40, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like the nomination was created, but just not listed at Template talk:Did you know. I have added it there manually. Wikipedia talk:Did you know is the place for DYK discussions. I would recommend using it in the future if you have more DYK questions. MB 03:10, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Commandant[edit]

This new photo of Commandant Patrick Denis is way too big - also ref number 7 is all wrong. Please fix if you have the time. I cannot 115.70.23.77 (talk) 04:30, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I've done some fixes at Commandant.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:47, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

my 1st article just not approved[edit]

hi how are you everyone.

    i write a new article about education i am new here and try to learn .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Metropolitan_International_United_College

the above link is my draft article which is not approved i just copy past things from website in start then i remove that things now i didn't find any link that support this article so i want to known should i stop doing thing on Wikipedia. and if i see some other article that have same links newspaper but they are approved so why this things happen . see below example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riphah_International_University — Preceding unsigned comment added by Creativewriting498 (talkcontribs) 05:59, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Creativewriting498, and welcome to the Teahouse and to Wikipedia. Please don't stop editing Wikipedia - new editors are always welcome. But, as the English saying goes, "don't run before you can walk". Creating a new article is one of the hardest jobs there is, especially for a new editor. I remember when I was a new editor, 17 years ago, how I desperately wanted to find a subject I could write an article about, to "make my mark". Now I know that, not only is creating a new article difficult, but there are far far far more valuable ways to help improve Wikipedia. We have over six million articles: thousands and thousands of them are terrible, and could be improved by any editor who takes the time and trouble.
My recommendation is that you put aside the idea of creating an article for at least a few months, and work on learning how Wikipedia works, by finding articles that interest you and making small improvements. If you can't think of any, have a look at the WP:task center.
When you are ready to have another go at creating an article, please start by reading your first article. Note that you must not copy material from another website or publication, and that Wikipedia is not intereste in what the subject of an article, or their associates, say about them, but only in what people unconnected with the subject have published about them. Happy editing! ColinFine (talk) 09:58, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thank for give some motivations what the point why this article is approved what reference in this are natural https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riphah_International_University Creativewriting498 (talk) 11:15, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alan Wakeman saxophonist entry[edit]

Hello,

I have tried to edit this entry for a minor change: Mr. Wakeman's domain name has changed recently. The new domain name is: alanwakeman.org

However, when I changed it, the entire profile box with the picture disappeared. I would be grateful for help on this matter.

With many thanks, Angela Jianu — Preceding unsigned comment added by AWAJsax (talkcontribs) 06:30, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, AWAJsax, I fixed the official website link as clicking the old link made it clear the link was now directing to a different website. The reason the infobox disappeared when you first edited was because you accidently removed the closing markup for the infobox. By closing markup, I'm referring to the brackets at the bottom of section. Cmr08 (talk) 07:05, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@AWAJsax I also updated the official website at Wakeman's Wikidata entry. GoingBatty (talk) 13:32, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It did not existed. We have a very large numbers of readers from Romania, a country extremely religious[edit]

Hello

I am trying to add our website to Wiki but I don't want to spam the website due to my inability to create the page.(LongCovid)

The website is named Click Romania - the link is www.clickromania.co.uk

We are a Romanian/European/British publishing organization online (we don't print anymore)

Thank you in advance, and when I get better, I will help editing articles about the Romanian history and architecture. Sorry for my Oxford comma :)

Regards A.M — Preceding unsigned comment added by ClickRomaniaUK (talkcontribs) 06:39, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi ClickRomaniaUK. Since you seem quite new to Wikipedia, you might be misunderstanding some important things about Wikipedia. Please take a look at Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything and Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not for some general information about the kind of content deemed appropriate to write about on Wikipedia. You also appear to have been adding content about your organization to some Wikipedia articles. For this reason, I suggest that you take a close look at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. Finally, there is a problem with your choice of user name since names which are seen to represent a company, organization, group, wesbite, etc. are not allowed for the reasons given here. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:40, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adding a parameter to a template[edit]

{{Infobox windmill}} currently does not support alt text for images. This is something I'd like to rectify. I've tried editing the template documentation without success but it hasn't worked. Assistance in this matter is welcome. Mjroots (talk) 07:57, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mjroots as that template is protected, you'd need to ask at Template talk:Infobox windmill. You can add {{Edit template-protected}} to the top of the request you make there, so it'll be picked up more quickly. I agree that alt text should be used in all infoboxes including this one. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:27, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Joseph2302:, if the template was unprotected, could you make the change? I can temporarily unprotect it if that is the case. Mjroots (talk) 11:38, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Help desk
A windmill at the help desk
This windmill has alt text
@Mjroots and Joseph2302: Looking at the code, the template has supported an alt text parameter named "alt" since 2014. If you're happy with that parameter name, it's just a matter of adding it to the documentation. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:45, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@John of Reading and Joseph2302: If this edit has worked, there should now be alt text at the image of Pitstone Windmill. Mjroots (talk) 11:50, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Mjroots: Editing the template documentation cannot change the function of the template. But this version of Pitstone Windmill sets the "alt" parameter, matching the name of the one in the template code, and it does have alt text. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:57, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@John of Reading:, so the current version of the article has working alt text? I'm not getting anything when I hover the mouse over the image (that is what is supposed to happen, isn't it?). Mjroots (talk) 12:19, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Mjroots: Yes, the current version has alt text. The effect of that depends on your browser and your Wikipedia gadgets. I have popups enabled, and hovering over the image shows me load of information, including the alt text. Or, I can ask my browser to show me the HTML source of the page and search within it for the expected alt text. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:29, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Mjroots: No, that isn't what's meant to happen. Browsers used to display alt text as a tooltip, but newer ones seem not to. That's not surprising as that's not what alt text is for. If you want some explanatory text with an image, it should be included as a caption. If you want to see if an image has alt text, some browsers will let you right-click any part of a web page to Inspect it. Bazza (talk) 15:20, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Citations[edit]

Hello and Greetings,

I have a question on citations, I am trying to make references as to where i can not make sfn's and book citations together with web citations or links on headings for wiki articles. Can you help me try to resolve this?


Best Regards, Surix321 (talk) 12:45, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Surix321, can you clarify what you mean? Sungodtemple (talk) 13:05, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, So basically. I am trying to make a references heading on a Wikipedia page with a few sub headings. One for sfns in a subheading separately in reflist for example and for other citations in a separate sub heading. Lastly the final subheading with cite books which I already know how to do.I’m trying to separate sfns and link citations. Surix321 (talk) 13:16, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Technical request: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Drew Russell[edit]

Resolved

any ideas what ran amok here? I thought it was the brackets in tq, but switching to itals didn't fix it,nor did manually replacing page name with the article title. Should I CSD the AfD and renom? Thanks for any tech insight. Star Mississippi 13:21, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Star Mississippi: Looking at the page, it seems like the {{tq}} templates, which were wrongly formatted, messed up with the substituted afd template, which led it to missing the "pg" argument. Hopefully, it's been fixed now. Isabelle 🏳‍🌈 13:39, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, thanks so much @Isabelle Belato. I either need more coffee or to not use tq within twinkle. Probably the former. Star Mississippi 13:57, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tree chart trouble[edit]

To whoever reads this, I have been having trouble with the creation of tree charts in my sandbox as a select few of them have refused to process, such as this one: file:///home/chronos/u-3821fcbfa6971ad4feffb304246101848acb7580/MyFiles/Downloads/Screenshot%202022-05-17%209.45.05%20AM.png, and I would like it to be resolved if possible. Is it because there is a limited amount of space I can add to my sandbox or is it an error in the code? I have been searching for quite some time and I haven't found I solution to a problem as specific as mine. Any help would be greatly appreciated! (talk) 10:05, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@GOMUL13: You have reached a template limit. Also, URL's starting with file:// point to files residing on your local computer and only work for you. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 15:24, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Captcha over and over again[edit]

Hello, please help! I have been trying to update an article, I edit a paragraph, cite it thoroughly, click “publish changes”, describe the changes, and then get stuck in a captcha loop where it asks me to do the captcha, I do it, and it just gives me a new one…over and over again until I give up. Can you help me understand what is going on and how to move forward with my edits, which I have retyped about 5 or 6 times now? Thank you for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3goatfarm (talkcontribs) 15:54, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]