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June 22[edit]


Can l talk about and or seek assistance with my invention ? Robin4620 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robin 4620 (talkcontribs) 01:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps... but maybe Wikipedia is not the right place unless your invention has something to do with Wikipedia or has the potential to help Wikipedia. (Or if you are Thomas Edison. Then we could use more information for your page.) 𝙷𝚎𝚕𝚕𝚘𝚑𝚎𝚊𝚛𝚝 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 01:57, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Robin 4620: The simplest answer is Wikipedia is not a place for general discussion, so unless your invention (or you) meets Wikipedia's definition of notability, the encyclopedia is not the place you're looking for. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:22, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Tenryuu Also, if you follow the link that Tenryuu provided, and scroll up a bit, you'll see information about Wikipedia, original research, and inventions. (talk) 07:44, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting non-free image[edit]

User:TAC PlazaMaster recently overwrote File:SM Investments Corporation logo.svg. However, the new file goes against the overwriting policy, as it is completely different. How can the image be reverted even though the older version has already been removed? Itsquietuptown ✉️📜 01:24, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As with most logos, these are WP:NONFREE images hosted on English Wikipedia under strict terms that mean they can only be used to illustrate the relevant article, in this case SM Investments. Assuming this is the correct current logo (I haven't checked), Wikipedia can't keep the older one unless it was available under a suitable license, in which case it would be better uploaded to Commons. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:53, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've undeleted the old revisions. This is easily public domain in the United States - a simple colored circle and text, however stylized, is below the threshold of originality. I don't know the first thing about Filipino copyright law, though, so it may not be suitable to moving to Commons. —Cryptic 15:54, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can I message someone about userboxes?[edit]

If I want to show appreciation to a user who edits article of their interests (such as movie articles), should I send them a message about userboxes? I think userboxes can be used to tell on who they are, what they like, what their views, etc. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 03:27, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@SpinnerLaserzthe2nd: You may post any reasonable and polite message you want to on the user's talk page. We generally do not recommend private messaging except where serious concerns about personal privacy are valid, because our entire effort depends on collaboration and consensus. -Arch dude (talk) 03:51, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 03:54, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@SpinnerLaserzthe2nd: At the top of the editor's talk page, you may see a 'heart' icon which should give you options to express appreciation. Eagleash (talk) 11:37, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting text[edit]

I would like to delete text on the page Language of mathematics. Do I need approval or can I just go ahead and do it? Xzae — Preceding unsigned comment added by XZae (talkcontribs) 13:57, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@XZae: Wikipedia encourages editors to be WP:BOLD in their editing. If someone objects, then don't WP:Editwar but discuss on the Talk Page of that article (which seems to have many issues currently). Also be sure to add a good WP:EDITSUMMARY explaining why you made the removal. All of this is part of our standard WP:BRD process. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:16, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Symbol redirect vote2.svg Courtesy link: Language of mathematics TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 23:12, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Restarting account.[edit]

Help restarting my account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:07, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean? Please clarify what you are asking for. RudolfRed (talk) 16:36, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect vs disambiguation vs. Primary/Secondary[edit]

hi! I am a fairly new wiki editor so bare with me, I am working on an article on American businessman Jonathan A. Krane, in addition to that article, there is an existing article on screenwriter Jonathan D. Krane.

currently Jonathan Krane redirects to D, I think it is hard to tell who is the primary or secondary Jonathan what should I do? should I create a Jonathan Krane(disambiguation) or would that not be necessary and I should keep it the same?

Seigerman (talk) 20:38, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Create a new article titled Draft: Jonathan A. Krane. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:07, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
To expand on what Orange Mike says, Seigerman: any fairly new editor who wants to create a new article is very strongly advised to use the Articles for creation process to create a Draft. This has the incidental advantage that you don't need to worry about the naming or any potentially clashing existing articles: you name the draft as seems suitable, and when a reviewer eventually accepts your draft they will sort out the naming, including adding or changing DAB pages and redirects as required. ColinFine (talk) 21:13, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I need help[edit]

I messed up this artical well trying to add my photo and I promise I'll quit Wikipedia after I get it sorted out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PokeyMama (talkcontribs) 21:30, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See my reply to your comment at Talk:June 2022 Afghanistan earthquake. ― Tartan357 Talk 21:35, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't give up on Wikipedia just because you got something wrong! We've all got things wrong at some time. ColinFine (talk) 22:25, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[show] and [hide] buttons not working[edit]

I am editing on my iPad and when I’m on pages it won’t let me click the [show] or [hide] buttons. It has worked before on this device, but doesn’t work most of the time. ~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by GameOfAwesome (talkcontribs) 21:40, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@GameOfAwesome: I'm not sure what the show and hide buttons are. Have you tried switching from desktop to mobile view, or back again? TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 23:15, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please post an example (always post an example) including where on the page. Are you using the mobile version (which shouldn't have show/hide links), the desktop version (which works on my iPhone), or an app when it happens? The mobile version has a "Desktop" link at the bottom and the desktop version has a "Mobile view" link. Does it work if you log out? Are you referring to edit pages in VisualEditor and not viewing pages? I don't know whether hide/show has ever worked in VisualEditor, or has ever been supposed to work. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:01, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@PrimeHunter:The buttons do work when i log out, does it have to do with any of my settings?GameOfAwesome (talk) 17:03, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@GameOfAwesome: Please answer the other questions so we know which problem you have. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:41, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@PrimeHunter: I am using the desktop version and viewing a regular page — Preceding unsigned comment added by GameOfAwesome (talkcontribs)
@GameOfAwesome: PLEASE POST AN EXAMPLE so we don't waste time examining somewhere you might not have the problem. Since it works to log out, also name your skin at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:12, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@PrimeHunter: For Example, If I am on the page for Joe Biden, and I click the [show] next to Other Offices, It does nothing — Preceding unsigned comment added by GameOfAwesome (talkcontribs)
@GameOfAwesome: It's caused by importScript("User:Thespaceface/ImperialFirst.js"); in User:GameOfAwesome/common.js. The script User:Thespaceface/ImperialFirst.js hasn't been edited since 2017. Based on the latest edit [1] the author was aware of problems and tried to solve it by expanding all collapsible boxes in advance. Maybe it worked in 2017. Thespaceface hasn't edited since November 2021. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:27, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@PrimeHunter Thank you so much! It worked! GameOfAwesome (talk) 17:08, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

can I replace the entire text of a long page/entry - or is this kind of editing disliked or not accepted especially if the topic raises rather strong emotions[edit]

To the Wikipedia evaluators (editors?) Upon recently reading the Wikipedia entry or page 'Cambridge Capital Controversy' (is page or entry the correct term?) I found that it is often very unclear; that it gives too much space to divergences on growth theory, even attributing to these divergences the birth of the controversy, which seems highly disputable; that some important aspects of the controversy are totally missed, for example the cryptic reference to intertemporal equilibrium theory by Solow and Samuelson, or the still very neoclassical conception of capital in the famous article by Joan Robinson that starts the controversy, or the absence of any neoclassical reply to the critics’ objections after about 1975. Also, the use of numerical examples renders the presentation much slower than necessary, quicker explanations are possible. Overall, the extant entry appears to have been written by someone with fairly extended knowledge of the controversy but not very clear on some important issues. I tried to elaborate partial edits but found it was extremely hard to correct all the defects with small edits. So, being rather competent on the topic, I propose a total replacement of the extant entry with a new one. The result is a longer entry, but I think a much more accurate and clearer entry. I do not know the procedure Wikipedia adopts in a case like this one and do not even know how to get this new text considered, but the total replacement of the text of an entry with a different text seems a rather drastic edit, even when as in the present case there is no fundamental disagreement on the general message the entry should transmit and it is more a matter of precision, details and completeness. So I would like to receive information on whether my proposed total edit is contrary to Wikipedia’s policies, or I can go ahead with it, or I should first propose it (how?) to a community of editors/evaluators and receive comments and suggestions for rewriting before proceeding with publishing it in place of the extant content. Signed: Mimuli Mimuli (talk) 23:18, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Mimuli: Replacing the text wholesale is virtually guaranteed to get you reverted. I strongly suggest you discuss this on Talk:Cambridge capital controversy to see if any interested editors are willing to discuss this with you. Also make sure you have reliable sources to back up your claims, because that's what Wikipedia uses as a foundation. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:37, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Mimuli, over 100 editors have contributed to that article going back 18 years and there have been 424 individual edits. The editor who made the largest number of contributions is a university economics professor who is now inactive. You are such an inexperienced editor that you do not even know the basic terminology such as "articles" and "editors". Wiping out 18 years of work by other people because you do not like the article would be disrespectful and disruptive. Incremental change is the way to go, and your edits must be grounded in Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Take the time to familiarize yourself with the most important of them. Since you claim to be rather competent on the topic, I recommend that you read Wikipedia:Expert editors, and take to heart the excellent advice you will find there. Cullen328 (talk) 00:00, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 23[edit]

Mi primer Articulo[edit]

Hola quería publicar un artículo acerca de mi empresa que este año ha cumplido 25 años y quería contar datos de la misma como historia y evolución para dejar constancia. Lo que no se es como hacerlo sin que parezca que es publicidad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tcivera (talkcontribs) 11:38, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Tcivera: Hi there! Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, especially when you have a conflict of interest (COI). To learn how to edit, you could view Help:Introduction and try The Wikipedia Adventure. I suggest spending a significant amount of time editing existing articles to hone your skills. When you're ready to create an article, you would gather independent reliable sources (not press releases or interviews or anything that the company has written) that have provided significant coverage of your company, and determine whether it meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability". If so, you would declare your COI on your user page. Then follow the instructions at Help:Your first article, and be prepared for a process that may include months of waiting, rejections, and rewrites, before an article is created. Note that every article on the English Wikipedia must be written in English. If you are successful, then you could never edit the article directly due to your COI, but could submit edit requests on the article talk page. Hope this helps. GoingBatty (talk) 12:44, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Business profile in wikipedia[edit]

I need help to live my business in Wikipedia. I don't know how to start and what to do now. I registered the account when I started searching my company name I couldn't find and I want to create a business profile. Can I get the exact solution? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azamghani1 (talkcontribs) 11:39, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An 'exact solution' would start from the understanding the purpose of Wikipedia. It is an encyclopaedia, not a platform for 'business profiles'. You could start by reading Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations, and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/ AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:43, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Azamghani. Unfortunately, Wikipedia is not the place for doing such a thing as explained here. Wikipedia articles can be written about companies that satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), but these aren't business profiles in any way and they are not controlled by the companies they're written about. So, if you're looking for a way to promote business, you'd be better off trying social media, a blog, a personal website or one of the other alternatives listed here. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:47, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And keep in mind that if there ever is a Wikipedia article on your business, it won't be your business's profile, anybody may edit it, you won't have control over it, and you might or might not like what it says. Uporządnicki (talk) 11:51, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

'm new and I don't understand how to report something bad[edit]

Hi there I don't really understand truly how to get a hold of somebody that can come and look at awful things somebody wrote its clearly an active vandalism on a page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tymbathelion (talkcontribs) 15:24, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Tymbathelion. You will need to tell us which article you are talking about. Shantavira|feed me 15:52, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If the edit hasn't already been reverted, you can revert it and leave a user warning on the talk page of the user. interstatefive  16:51, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You already found a place to get hold of somebody but you have to say where the problem is. Tell us both the page and which things on the page you refer to.PrimeHunter (talk) 17:54, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A page's references are broken[edit]

List of musical works in unusual time signatures The sections "Notes and References" and "Bibliography" are not working with the templates. What happened and can someone fix it? Wilh3lmTalk 16:52, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Wilhelm von Hindenburger: The page is in Category:Pages where post-expand include size is exceeded. There are 666 {{music}}. They each use around 2.5 kB of the 2048 kB limit. Other templates push it over the edge. I haven't looked for suitable ways to reduce it. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:46, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's discussed at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Broken reflist at List of musical works in unusual time signatures. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:57, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]


When i'm logged out on Wikipedia i see [ edit ] on pages next to where i put 'Example' at the top, but when I'm logged in I see [ edit source ], can I make it only show [ edit ] here when i'm logged in? --Aaron106 (talk) 20:48, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Aaron106: I'm not sure, but I think [edit source] appears when you are using the source editor and [edit] appears when you are using the visual editor. Try switching an editor and looking at the links again. weeklyd3 (message me | my contributions) 21:33, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Aaron106: You'd have to go to Preferences → Editing → uncheck Disable the visual editor while it is in beta, and make sure the dropdown menu underneath it is set to Always give me the visual editor if possible. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:43, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Remembering name?[edit]

I can't remember the name of a string player that is Jewish, lives in NY, married, wheelchair bound, sometimes plays in a trio, is around 85,not sure if he was born in this country but think so, composes, has several LP's on the market, may play saxophone, flute, oboe. please help me find his name or where to look. Thank you 2601:300:4100:D000:CDD7:EFE:AE0E:B396 (talk) 21:07, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Try asking at WP:RDE. The Help Desk is for questions on how to use Wikipedia. RudolfRed (talk) 21:14, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Itzhak Perlman?
Trappist the monk (talk) 21:45, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Policy question[edit]

There is an editor changing "She is the adopted daughter of the late former Philippine president, Ferdinand Marcos and former first lady Imelda Marcos." to "She is the adopted daughter of the late former Philippine president, dictator, and kleptocrat Ferdinand Marcos and former first lady and graft convicted Imelda Marcos." in Aimee Marcos, and making similar changes in other articles, and slow-edit warring over it, and labeling removal of their changes as vandalism (which it is of course not).

There has been no discussion anywhere that I have seen. I'm not sure what warnings to give (except to not label content disputes as vandalism). But do we have a policy on this? Things like WP:NPOV are written about a topic article and don't really seem to apply well to this scenario. Can anyone help? MB 21:30, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@MB: Despite being true, this is indeed POV pushing. WP:BALANCE, WP:IMPARTIAL and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch all may also provide some guidance. It's enough to link to the article without including a flurry of descriptive terms for additional context. I'd warn the editor on their talk page, and undo their edits. If they persist, I think this warrants asking for help at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 23:46, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for those links. This isn't an ANI matter quite yet because they have not been warned. I am trying to craft a good/appropriate warning. I used Disruptive Editing with a custom explanation. MB 00:33, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
WP:OFFTOPIC and WP:COATRACK are also relevant. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:47, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Any reader who wants to learn about the proven corruption of various members of the Marcos family can learn a lot about it here on Wikipedia. It is not necessary to jam in down our reader's throats. Cullen328 (talk) 01:33, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
After looking into this further, I did take this to ANI because there are multiple editors involved and it spans at least six articles. MB 01:52, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 24[edit]

Source of information.[edit]

I read the wiki page on racism in Israel. How do you know that this is not just opinion? It is clearly bias, racist , anti Zionist article. What are your methods for clarification? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:1300:8B95:61E9:3E85:E243:BF2 (talk) 01:58, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The content on the article is based off of the citations that follow them. If you have concerns about the reliability of the sources, please discuss them at either WP:RSN or the article's talk page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:55, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tang Xianhu[edit]

I created this page Tang Xianhu and it passes the review. But on Google, it still shows a draft and then redirects to the main page. Can you help to publish it as a main and not as a redirect? Oahid (talk) 02:42, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Oahid: New articles aren't indexed by search engines until 90 days have passed or a new pages patroller approves it, whichever comes first. It's already in mainspace. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:56, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
okay got it, thanks! Oahid (talk) 03:04, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a way to not mark rollbacks as minor[edit]

Somehow, when I rollback, it is marked as a minor edit. Is there a way to disable this (so that Huggle rollbacks won't be minor)? I can't find anything in the preferences that enables this. weeklyd3 (message me | my contributions) 06:23, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so: see WP:MINOR. If you really don't think a rollback is minor just undo the last edit the old fashioned way and add an edit summary. Shantavira|feed me 08:21, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Logo picture sizes[edit]

Hello Dear Sir/Madam,

I hope you are having a great day/night, depending on your time zone.

Writting this letter in order to explain an issue i recognized earlier. I was reading through articles in wikipedia and i recognized that some logo pictures on numereous amount of pages are sized wrong: some of them are too big to fit in the frame, some of them are too small and lose quality. My question is - what should be a perfect size for picture to be fully optimized in frame of wikipedia, so there wont be any size issues and lose of quality?

Looking forward to your reply,

Best Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Denzo9909 (talkcontribs) 07:19, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It would help if you could give some examples. The aspect ratio can affect how an image appears in the infobox. It is possible to adjust the size manually.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:32, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Denzo9909 - Logos are, almost always, copyright, so can only be used under a claim of fair use. As stated at WP:FILESIZE "If the image is copyrighted and used under fair use, the uploaded image must be as low-resolution as possible consistent with its fair-use rationale".
I can't find the guideline at the moment, but somewhere it states that, for free use, it should be not more than 300 px on one side. This means that very detailed logos will lose some of their detail. Conversely, if uploaded less than 200 px wide, it will not display in the infobox correctly, without using an image size parameter. This then magnifies a less detailed image, giving poor quality. - hope that helps - Arjayay (talk) 14:17, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
However, these days fair-use files are automatically shrunken by a bot after awhile, so uploading a whetever res logo works too. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:43, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

When will be my page publish?[edit]

Symbol redirect vote2.svg Courtesy link: Draft:Zorawar Singh
I have created an account with the name of Zorawar Singh (Jump Rope Expert). Cab you please help me out to resolve the issue if there is an issue. PLease review the page and try to update it soon either provide the sufficient information how many time it takes to update. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zorawar Singh (Jump Rope Expert) (talkcontribs) 07:34, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Zorawar Singh (Jump Rope Expert): You are strongly discouraged from writing about yourself and many of the sources you have used aren't appropriate as reliable sources. I suggest you use another website, as Wikipedia is not something to promote yourself. It is virtually guaranteed to be declined or rejected. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:55, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) @Zorawar Singh (Jump Rope Expert): You created a draft article on your userpage. That is not allowed and the draft was liable for speedy deletion (under WP:U5, "blatant misuse of Wikipedia as a web host"). To avoid this, I moved it to Draft:Zorawar Singh.
If you are not Zorawar Singh, you will need to change your username (see WP:REALNAME for why, and go to WP:CHUS to request the change).
You will need to provide suitable references that show this person is "notable". See WP:GNG for the details, but 99% of the time (for living people), that means newspaper articles that were written without relying solely on what the subject says. Online newspapers that just link to or reproduce an Instagram video do not count. If you cannot find such sources, you should not spend any more time working on the draft, it will not be accepted no matter how polished it is.
If you are Zorawar Singh, you should avoid editing the draft yourself (see our advice about autobiographies). Similar advice applies if you are related to them (family member, friend, colleague...) - see WP:COI. TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 13:56, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Zorawar Singh (Jump Rope Expert) - Please see Help:Your first article for lots of helpful information, and instructions on submitting your draft for review. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 20:09, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MfD question[edit]

I noticed that an MfD showed up in the Article Alerts at WP:POD. So I commented at the discussion here, but as far as I can tell no one opened it and there was no rationale for deletion. Since I commented the Article Alert now says "MfDed was closed by TipsyElephant", however, I've never closed a deletion discussion before and don't even know how. What happened and why? TipsyElephant (talk) 13:18, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@TipsyElephant: Wikipedia:WikiProject Podcasting/Assessment transcludes Wikipedia:Content assessment/A-Class criteria which was MfD'ed in [2]. The next edit added noinclude tags to avoid side effects on other pages. Is it OK if I delete Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Podcasting/Assessment? PrimeHunter (talk) 14:01, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@PrimeHunter: yeah, go for it. Will it continue to show up in the Article Alerts? TipsyElephant (talk) 15:15, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@TipsyElephant: I have deleted it and removed it from Wikipedia:WikiProject Podcasting/Article alerts.[3] PrimeHunter (talk) 15:26, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Hi, I need help for Abbey of Saint-Antoine-l'Abbaye and Abbey church of Saint-Antoine-l'Abbaye, specially about style, spelling and grammar. Both articles are translated from the French. We had a workshop last week-end, where we took more than 1000 pictures of the church and the village, so pictures will be added soon. I will add references when I find them (not easy). Thanks, Yann (talk) 16:15, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Yann: The church article is almost entirely unreferenced. Have you considered slimming it down somewhat and merging it into the Abbey's article, in a section entitled Church? TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:51, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jackie DeAngelis[edit]

In her Wikipedia Biography - you have two (2) mistakes:

1). On one (1) it is stated that Jackie is of SPANISH origin.

2). On another page it is stated in a

     that Jackie is Black.

Both wrongful mistakes are egregiously inaccurate. The SUR NAME “DEANGELIS” is of Italian Origin - not Spanish or Black. Please correct her Bio.

Thank You Jerry Coccoli Hudson Yards, NYC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:4B3E:318E:CCB1:50D8:FD80:3666 (talk) 17:32, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please direct these comments to the article talk page. Note that a black Spanish person with an Italian name is not an impossibility, especially for a woman. 331dot (talk) 18:12, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what content the IP editor is referring to. Do we have an biography on Jackie DeAngelis? That article was deleted in 2012 as copyright infringement. RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (talk · contribs) 18:53, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
[Edit conflict] Hello, Jerry. English-language Wikipedia does not have an article titled Jackie DeAngelis (which is why that 'wikilink' is red). Can you clarify who you mean (for me, online search results for the name are dominated by a US journalist) and where you have seen this 'Wikipedia biography'? (A link would be helpful.) {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 18:56, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No trace of her, after a sock-related deletion in January 2021. And the "another page" comment makes me think this isn't a Wikipedia issue. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:58, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

C-Class Articles[edit]

Hello! I have an article that I have created titled Igoeti that is currently graded as Start-Class. Recently, I have been editing this article thoroughly and feel that it may qualify as a C-Class article. Is there any way to have this checked? Thanks! 𝙷𝚎𝚕𝚕𝚘𝚑𝚎𝚊𝚛𝚝 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 22:07, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Helloheart: Perhaps ask at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Georgia_(country). -Arch dude (talk) 22:13, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adding Vega chart to article[edit]

Hi, I've made a stacked bar chart of electricity usage in Victoria using the Vega graphing tool to add to Energy in Victoria here User:Robert Merkel/GraphTest. Obviously, I could just cut and paste the markup into the article, but it might be nice to able to reuse the chart elsewhere, and I'd also like to add captions and sourcing. Can I add the chart to Wikimedia Commons, and then use it in the article, and if so how? --Robert Merkel (talk) 23:15, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 25[edit]

Paolo Banchero Wikipedia page[edit]

Someone keeps removing Paolo's nationality on the info box. Before it had: Nationality: American / Italian. Listing him as only 'American' is not right. Paolo is a dual American & Italian citizen and on NBA draft night he said he'll be representing Italy. Hence, he's an Italian basketball player. It's a tricky one because he's born in the U.S., holds dual American & Italian citizenship, and will represent Italy at international tournaments. Just having Paolo as an American basketball player is not right, especially when he's registered for Italy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allan.waterhouse (talkcontribs) 05:54, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Allan.waterhouse: "Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, previous nationalities or the place of birth should not be mentioned in the lead unless relevant to the subject's notability." It's getting removed because until he actually plays for an international squad his nationality isn't particularly relevant to his career as far as Wikipedia is concerned. It's mentioned further down the page, and for now that is all that is necessary. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 06:00, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
But FIBA have him registered for Italy. He's switched allegiance and he will be representing Italy at international tournaments and at the Olympics. I don't know what the correct term is, but being referred to as an American basketball player when he's registered to play for Italy is wrong. How can he be called an American basketball player when he plays for Italy? Allan.waterhouse (talk) 06:09, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Again, unless and until he actually plays for Italy it doesn't matter, as his entire career up to this point has been in America. Once he plays for the Italian squad, then it'll change. Not before. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 06:12, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with that. But why was his Nationality removed in the info box? Other athletes who hold dual citizenship have it listed, why was Paolo's removed? Allan.waterhouse (talk) 06:16, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Why is Hanley Ramírez referred to as: Dominican and American former professional baseball shortstop? in the first paragraph? He was born in the Dominican Rep., he has never represented the U.S., and received American citizenship 3 years ago. Why is he referred to in the first sentence as 'Dominican and American' when you can't do the same for Paolo Banchero? Allan.waterhouse (talk) 06:27, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]