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DYK for 5-Methyl-2-((2-nitrophenyl)amino)-3-thiophenecarbonitrile[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 29 May 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 5-Methyl-2-((2-nitrophenyl)amino)-3-thiophenecarbonitrile, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a chemical known as ROY has eleven crystalline forms, including red, orange and yellow examples? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/5-Methyl-2-((2-nitrophenyl)amino)-3-thiophenecarbonitrile. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, 5-Methyl-2-((2-nitrophenyl)amino)-3-thiophenecarbonitrile), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Coral Bell[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 27 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Coral Bell, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ric Throssell tried unsuccessfully to recruit Coral Bell as a Soviet spy in Canberra? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Coral Bell. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Coral Bell), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:03, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Buffalobev (15:28, 20 September 2021)[edit]

Hi Michael, Nice to know I've been assigned a mentor. I saw a grammar mistake on the page I was reading and I think that's the kind of editing I'm going to be doing for quite awhile. I'm an anthropologist by training, so I tend to read pages having to do with history, philosophy, society, human evolution, psychology, etc. quite a bit.

Thank you!

Bev --Buffalobev (talk) 15:28, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia, Buffalobev! There's quite a steep learning curve here, so you are wise to stick to making minor edits at first. Don't be shy in asking me for advice, though, which you can do by continuing to edit into this part of my Talk Page. I have it on my watchlist, of course, so there won't be any need to alert me with a ping or a mention (using {{u|Username}} like I did for you in this thread). You can tell the world a little about yourself and what you intend to contribute by creating your userpage: currently your signature is a red link but the system will allow you to create a first draft if you click on it. See WP:UPYES for advice on that. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:56, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 4,7-Dichloroquinoline[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 1 October 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 4,7-Dichloroquinoline, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the availability of the chemical intermediate 4,7-dichloroquinoline facilitated the discovery of hydroxychloroquine in 1949? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/4,7-Dichloroquinoline. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, 4,7-Dichloroquinoline), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 3-Hydroxyisonicotinaldehyde[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 21 December 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 3-Hydroxyisonicotinaldehyde, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that 3-hydroxyisonicotinaldehyde has the lowest molecular weight of any dye which exhibits green fluorescence? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/3-Hydroxyisonicotinaldehyde. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, 3-Hydroxyisonicotinaldehyde), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Question from La-provence-wood on User:La-provence-wood (12:10, 27 December 2021)[edit]

I need some help in getting this article published. Let me know what I need to do to format it correctly and get it right for Wikipedia. When I try to publish it I can’t find it online. Let me know how to best process it so it can be published. Thanks! --La-provence-wood (talk) 12:10, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@La-provence-wood: You have made a bit of a mess, which is not surprising because you are a new editor here and you have plunged straight in to try to create an article, which is incredibly difficult until you've learned the ropes: a bit like trying to compose a symphony before you've learned how to play any musical instrument. Firstly, you need to "blank" your own User Page at User:La-provence-wood. That's not a place to draft a new article, just a place to tell other editors here how you intend to contribute to the encyclopaedia (see WP:USER). Before doing that, you need to incorporate any of the useful stuff from that page (e.g. the references) into the draft article at Draft:Paul Stephen Boyington, which you don't seem to have touched for nearly two months. That is the correct location for new articles that are to be considered for inclusion in Wikipedia and the only place you should continue to add material about him. Once the draft is ready for review, there is a button to submit it. I also notice that you have other part-drafts at User:La-provence-wood/sandbox and User:La-provence-wood/Sample page, which is why I'm calling this a mess! Stick to the single draft and make edits there to progressively develop it. Be aware that you are trying to write about a living person and as such you MUST meet all the rules stated at WP:BLP, especially the one that says All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be supported by an inline citation to a reliable, published source. I will add some general links to your Talk Page at User talk:La-provence-wood which includes help on this.
Next, a word about publication. You will have seen how you need to use the "Publish changes" button to save what you have written on to the page you are editing. The word "publish" is not used in the sense that what you have written will end up being indexed by search engines like Google. Talk pages, sandboxes and draft space are not indexed by these search engines; only articles in Main Space (the actual encyclopaedia) get indexed. The meaning of "publish" is that what you have saved can be found by anyone who knows where to look: in your case I found everything you had done by navigating to Special:Contributions/La-provence-wood and I could click onto each page from there.
Finally, some advice that you may not like. Postpone trying to get the draft about PSB accepted for at least several weeks. Meanwhile try to improve some of the 6 million+ articles already available, perhaps looking at those in topic areas that interest you. That way, you'll learn how things work here and may even enjoy making contributions. Persisting with a draft that doesn't meet the expected standards is likely to be very frustrating as the experienced editors who review new material (I'm not one of them) can be quite harsh. Good luck! Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:53, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Question from ENES(Enchy) on Talk:Ivan Sergei (14:04, 2 January 2022)[edit]

Hi, my name is Enes and I am from Bosnia and Herzegovina. I am interested in information about his parents, because I think that Ivan Sergei actually comes from somewhere in the Balkans, I want to say his origin. Can I get information about it, just so I know. --ENES(Enchy) (talk) 14:04, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello ENES(Enchy), welcome to Wikipedia. I've deleted the repeats of your question: I'm not sure how you managed to get the copies! I'll add some general information about editing Wikipedia to your Talk Page in a little while. The key is that for biographies of living people Wikipedia has very strict standards. All statements must be backed up by reliable sources. These don't have to be online sources, although these days many of them will be. However, they have to be published in the sense that they are in principle available to anyone to verify they are accurate. So they can be in foreign languages or obscure books that only a few libraries might hold. I don't know why you believe that Ivan Sergei comes from somewhere in the Balkans because the article says he was born and raised in the US and that fact is backed up by the quoted sources. Similarly, this link quoted as a reference mentions his Italian / Dutch descent, which I would assume means that these were the nationalities of his parents. Of course, sources can be wrong but if you want to alter the article, you'll need to find other source(s) which back up what you intend to add. You cannot just put in information you personally believe to be true: on WIkipedia we call this original research and it is strictly forbidden here. By all means come back and add any further questions you have for me into this thread. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:43, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from SobieskyPL (09:23, 4 January 2022)[edit]

Hi, I accidentally added letter „g” in this article. How can I revert this change?

Article: https://pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macierz_odwrotna --SobieskyPL (talk) 09:23, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi SobieskyPL. You can revert any edit you make on any page just by going to the "History" tab that appears alongside the article in question and clicking on the "undo" option in the list of edits that appear alongside your name/timestamp. I note that this question on my Talk Page is the only edit your account has made to the English Wikipedia and that the page you linked to (on the Polish Wikipedia) has never been edited by you — its last edit was on 18 August 2021. So are you sure of your facts? Maybe you edited the page but did not save the changes? Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:46, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

Original Barnstar Hires.png The Original Barnstar
Thanks for your heed! 589q (talk) 17:36, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merger of Alkane stereochemistry into Conformational isomerism[edit]

Hi, there has been a recent objection to the merger of Alkane stereochemistry into Conformational isomerism so I was wondering if you would be willing to rejoin the discussion again since the consensus was made years ago but I want to ensure that this current objection is heard by the original participants of the discussion before I merge and remove this from the backlog. Thanks! -Karthanitesh (talk) 00:54, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Karthanitesh, the original discussion was only one year ago. I've made another comment and I think the consensus is pretty clear as a merge: I hope you are happy to do the work! Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:16, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You're right! Sorry, the new year has made me forgotten how much time actually has past. Thanks for your reply and when a week has passed since the last comment, I will do the merger! -Karthanitesh (talk) 15:46, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Suriyakp93 (10:30, 19 January 2022)[edit]

hi sir how to get a editing job in Wikipedia --Suriyakp93 (talk) 10:30, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There are no jobs here, if you mean work for payment, Suriyakp93. All contributors are volunteers who do what they can, when they can. Wikipedia is one of the most-read websites in the world and is proud of its largely accurate articles on a huge variety of topics. I am rewarded by the knowledge that my writing here will be around long after I'm gone! Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:45, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from JoyousCreative (15:22, 21 January 2022)[edit]

Hi Mike Turnbull! If something happened in an episode of a TV show (e.g., last night, Coco Rocha appeared as a guest judge on Project Runway), do you need to add a source for this information? If so, what would be appropriate (e.g., a link to the episode summary on the channel)? (There are no good news sources talking about this so that as a reference isn't a choice right now.) Thanks, in advance, if you have any advice. I couldn't figure it out by searching the help. --JoyousCreative (talk) 15:22, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JoyousCreative. The relevant policy is this one on the biographies of living people, namely all quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be supported by an inline citation to a reliable, published source. Now, you have added material that is very current, so sourcing is a problem and Wikipedia is not a newspaper nor is it a gossip column. More important, from my experience, is whether the fact of her appearance in this particular show is likely to continue to be a significant part of her career when seen from the perspective of, say, five years' time. If not, then that information is not really of encyclopaedic value. So: what should you do? I suggest you wait a couple of weeks and see whether any newspaper or magazine picks up that appearance and comments on it. If they do, then you can add that as a source. I don't think that you should just link to the episode summary, on the basis that WP:Secondary sources are always better than WP:Primary ones and you certainly want to avoid what some editors call WP:Fancruft. Meanwhile, if anyone reverts your addition to the article today, don't fret about it and take any debate to the relevant Talk Page. Once there is a secondary source, I don't think that there could be an objection to the information being there. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:11, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you![edit]

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Mike Turnbull Thank you for your help! I looked her up because I didn't know who she was when I watched the episode (as she was the main star and it was all about her and they even changed the rules just to include her prominently), and—when reading her Wikipedia bio—I noticed that her significant appearances on other shows were part of her bio but this new appearance was not there. 

I think you may be right, though. It may or may not fall into that fancruft bucket. Since I'm not an expert on what matters in the lives of supermodels, I will definitely defer to other editors with more expertise!

Thank you for taking the time to share all of those detailed notes and specific documentation links. They help so much in my understanding.

JoyousCreative (talk) 17:31, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
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Question from Uscool bea on User talk:MrOllie (22:15, 24 January 2022)[edit]

Hello how can i make people like my videos --Uscool bea (talk) 22:15, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Uscool bea. I'm afraid I don't understand your question. This addition to my User Talk Page is the only edit from your account so far. Why are you interested in MrOllie's Talk Page and what has that to do with liking videos? Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:20, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Library[edit]

Hello Mike. Thank you for your offer at the Teahouse to retrieve a Cambridge Core article for my studies into Joseph Vallot. The link to what I'm after is here. If you need me to email me so that you have somewhere to send a pdf, just let me know. (It will be a relief not to have to wade through an article in French for a change!) Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:33, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Nick Moyes: Email on way so I can send the .pdf to you. Mike Turnbull (talk) 09:38, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from XS0UL3AT3Rx (02:49, 31 January 2022)[edit]

I wanted to start a wiki page for Son of a Fink and the crew. What do you suggest? First time creating a page --XS0UL3AT3Rx (talk) 02:49, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi XS0UL3AT3Rx and welcome to Wikipedia editing. I Googled "Son of a Fink and the crew" and found only a few hits, mainly to their own website and a few Facebook entries. That means it will be virtually impossible to create an article on Wikipedia for them. There are billions of people on the planet and millions of organisations, so Wikipedia has to be selective in what it covers and it does that by insisting that anything mentioned here is WP:NOTABLE. There's a lot more about that and other aspects of writing for Wikipedia at this link you should read carefully. My usual advice to newcomers is to start slowly making small edits to topics of interest to you that are already covered by an existing article. I'll add a section on your Talk Page to give some further links that might be helpful. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:49, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thiamine for GA[edit]

I am considering this as my next GA nomination for a vitamin, after I finish with Vitamin A, which I will be nominating on February 1st. My usual approach is to check all references, first to see if valid, then second to see if they can be replaced by newer references to content that is 100% available on line. From past experience raising vitamin articles to GA, the process involves removing one-third to one-half of existing refs (and quite a bit of article content), and then expanding content and adding refs. Section titles and order will be made to be more aligned with the other GA vitamin articles. You are welcome if you want to either join in the bloodbath or oppose any of my edits. David notMD (talk) 16:26, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, David, I thought you might move on to thiamine and that's why I recently added some chemistry there. Go ahead with your trims and I'll chip in when I can; and certainly once the GA review starts. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:36, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
FYI - I intend to complete the full set of vitamins, but dread tackling vitamin D. And also FYI - vitamin A and immune function was what my doctoral thesis was about, but given that was 40 years ago, I do not consider that a COI. David notMD (talk) 21:10, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to discussion: FAC 4 nomination of nonmetal[edit]

Please accept this note as an invitation to participate in the discussion of this latest FAC nomination for the nonmetal article.

The context is that you were involved in the FAC 3 discussion for the article (which was not prompted) or you are an editor who made a recent edit to the nonmetal article.

Thank you. Sandbh (talk) 07:12, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Yeasin Skyhawk (16:07, 15 February 2022)[edit]

Hi --Yeasin Skyhawk (talk) 16:07, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And hi to you also, Yeasin. I've added some links to your User Page that I hope you will find helpful. By all means continue in this section if you want more information. Meanwhile, make sure that anything you add to Wikipedia includes reliable sources that confirm what you have included. The lack of sourcing was why your first-ever edit was reverted. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:56, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh thats why it was reverted. Thanks for the information Yeasin Skyhawk (talk) 18:25, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The imdb issue we discussed[edit]

Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2022_February_9#Links_to_imdb_that_looks_like_wikilinks. I asked for more opinions at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film/Archive_79#Masking_imdb_links_as_wikilinks. I'm going to start removing some, if you want to join in, please do. It's not pressing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:43, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm starting with imdbname using [1], you could start with imdbtitle [2] if you want. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:48, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Gråbergs Gråa Sång, I'll do the imdbtitles, although I may not be able to do many for a couple of days owing to other commitments. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:38, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't plan on working very quickly myself. Sometimes there's 1, sometimes there's 40. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:06, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There are times when it's reasonable to convert an EL to a ref, but imdb is almost never a good ref on WP. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:37, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Gråbergs Gråa Sång, I'm becoming more aggressive as I gain some experience with these and may revisit a few I've already looked at. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:18, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've come across a few like [3] with a lot of imdb-links and the basic thought seems to be that these are the next best thing to a wikilink. I think it's mostly a leftover from earlier WP-thinking, those links were in the article in 2012. What I haven't been doing when removing is checking if there is a corresponding WP-article today. There may be some tool around that can suggest wikilinks, but it's nothing I have used. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:59, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
[4] This was an interesting version. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:39, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gråbergs Gråa Sång By accident, when I was working on this diff I realised that there is a {{IMDb name}} template which renders names as proper external links and the corresponding {{IMDb episode}} one for titles. So [[imdbname:3940507|Robert Roldan]], rendering as Robert Roldan can be converted to {{IMDb name|3940507|Robert Roldan}}, rendering as Robert Roldan at IMDb. That template is already used on ~ 145,000 pages, so I don't think we can expunge it but we can certainly make our current clean-up easier if it is appropriate to keep the IMDb link. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:07, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, those are what should be used in the EL-section, I've converted a few I found there too. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:51, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: I'm pleased to report that, following a few days of intense work, I've repaired all the imdb title issues with the exception of this mess I'm still working on. I'll move on to assisting you with the names. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:52, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the notice! I've been distracted from "my" list lately, but end is in sight. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:06, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Just to say that all are  Done now. I've put the query links at the top of this section so I can check for future problems as they occur. Gråbergs Gråa Sång Do you think we should include the "done" into the archive pages (probably against archive policy?) for others to note, or report the clean-up elsewhere? It would be nice to know why the [[imdbname]] stuff works and how to stop it working, as the equivalent template versions seem perfectly acceptable for anyone who really needs them. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:33, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for good cooperation (as in doing most of the work). After reading your message I checked, and found 2 new ones I dealt with. My understanding of Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2022_February_9#Links_to_imdb_that_looks_like_wikilinks is that this is not a WP thing, it's a MediaWiki thing, and may actually have legit uses elsewhere, though here it just seems annoying. If I made my own wiki about something, perhaps I'd think they were just dandy. Possibly other WP:s don't have our EL rules, and editors bring their habits to en-WP.
I'm afraid I don't get "include the "done" into the archive pages" perhaps you could show me with a test edit? On reporting, we could mention it at WP:FILM and WP:TV, perhaps add something at Wikipedia:Citing_IMDb#Inappropriate_uses? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:12, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I just meant that I could add a statement that we had fixed all the instances found to date on the page Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film/Archive_79#Masking_imdb_links_as_wikilinks. However, your idea is much better, Gråbergs Gråa Sång. By placing something in that essay, we can hope people will take note and can quote it ourselves when we gently chide folk on their talk page for continuing to use this sort of link ;-) Will you make the addition? Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:23, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah! I'll do it, we'll see what happens. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:28, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Btw, did you get any talkback/pushback while doing this? I've had none. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:32, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Gråbergs Gråa Sång No I think there was one case only of a revert, where I subsequently explained why we were doing what we were doing and in several other cases people clicked to "Thank" me for the edits. Overall a very useful exercise. I did end up wondering why Wikipedia hosts so many poor articles about movies and movie "stars". IMDb itself may be a better place for a lot of this (i.e. if it were up to me I'd make our notability requirements much stronger, or at least apply them more strictly). Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:46, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: OMG! There are literally dozens of imdbtitle instances again now (see search 2 above in this section). There was just one imdbname when I checked, which I fixed today. I'll restart the name cleanup asap: do you want to help? This time I think we'll need to post some sort of message on the Talk Page of anyone we notice has done this more than once in the current set. I'll compose something and post it here for you to copy if you like.... Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:45, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested notification:

Hello! Please stop stop using the imdbtitle link as I noticed you did at foo. The reasons for not using that type of link are explained at WT:WikiProject_Film/Archive 79#Masking imdb links as wikilinks. There is a template {{imdb title}} which can be used in the external links section of articles. Thanks. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:53, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yep 4 dozens atm. Sure, I'll dig in. Message looks good. There's also WP:IMDB/BLP but it's not as explanatory. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:59, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
OK, Well  Done! Now I'm going to bed.... Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:56, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Possibly something else to comb through:[5]. Some like adding spotify in a similar manner to imdbtitel, but at least they show as EL. Still, yuk. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:53, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Gråbergs Gråa Sång We'll have to find a bigger comb! I looked at the first example Heavyweight (podcast) and it alone has a huge set of open.spotify references. I think we (i.e. you!) need to raise the issue elsewhere. I looked at the archive in WP:RSN and couldn't find anything specific, although there were some comments about Spotify in general. Mike Turnbull (talk) 22:01, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If you check my edithistory today you'll see I found a real imdb-enthusiast. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:38, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Also Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Spotify. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:46, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: Interesting that after you raised this at the RSN, User:Citation bot cleaned up Heavyweight (podcast) in this diff so that it no longer appears on your hitlist. So invoking that on the pages in question will remove most if not all of the problems. I'll try Anders (singer) in a moment to see if this works there.... Yup, it did! Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:26, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't work with them all but the worst ones (the totally bare URL within a citation) are tidied up fairly well. Where the bot fails, it does nothing and the article will still be on your hitlist. There may be a case for doing a dummy edit to indicate in the page history that the bot was tried and further action is still needed. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:23, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Slightly off-topic, but I'm learning some interesting search-fu at Wikipedia:Help_desk#What_links_here. Apparently Trappist the monk is the one to ask. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:05, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 5-Aminoimidazole ribotide[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 28 February 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 5-Aminoimidazole ribotide, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that RNA, DNA, and vitamins B1 and B12 are all made from AIR? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/5-Aminoimidazole ribotide. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, 5-Aminoimidazole ribotide), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Rubinia87 (14:39, 10 March 2022)[edit]

Hi Michael

I am sorry for bothering you. I tried to solve that issue myself but I am lost. I edit a List of Ghost towns. Some of them of course come from the same source. I was able to put a Reference in over Cite -> automatic. But I can't reuse it. that tap is inactive. I added the cite again and again but then I see it in the Ref List 10 times. I also didn't find the Ref Tool Wikipedias help tell me tu use and then reuse. How can I use the same Cite again then? --Rubinia87 (talk) 14:39, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No bother, that's what mentors are for, Rubinia87! So, suppose we look at the first reference[1] To reuse it, follow the instructions at WP:REFNAME. This means putting something like <ref name=Hancock> in place of the first <ref> tag (if you look at this in the source editor, you'll see I've done that). Now, everywhere you want to re-use that reference you just place <ref name=Hancock/>(note the final forward slash) and that second[1] or third[1] instance will work. Don't be confused by the nowiki tags here in my reply. They're only there to prevent the Wiki software from doing its magic: they aren't part of what you need for a named reference. Good luck with your editing. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:58, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Thank you for your help. I tried it again. made the cite on the first one and then use <ref name=Hancock/ >. It didnt work again. I dont know where I dont understand that. Then I had a look on the edit source of your answer, saw how your secnd and third time is made and tried it that way. Like <nowiki><ref name=Hancock><nowiki/ >. I on purpose saved the list wrong in case you want to see it in my article. List of ghost towns in Ohio. I know though that I should not make a space between / and >. I did some html coding, what makes me even more frustrated that this doesnt work haha. I code a website, why cant i make that work. Rubinia87 (talk) 17:53, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I see the problem. While you correctly tried to reuse the Hancock reference, you didn't put the ref name=Hancock part in the FIRST instance where you created the reference, which gave an error because as far as the software was concerned, it didn't know what you meant when invoking that cite again later in the page. I fixed this with this edit today. In looking a the article, I note that most of the entries refer to "Hacock County", not "Hancock County", which I suppose is a typo? Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:37, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rubinia87:, sorry forgot the ping... Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:38, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ a b c "Hancock County". Ohio Ghost Town Exploration Co. 2018-08-26. Retrieved 2022-03-10.

Question from Mikeygio2000 (17:40, 15 March 2022)[edit]

Hello, sorry to bother you. I’m athlete and I’m trying to create a Wikipedia page for myself. How might I do that? --Mikeygio2000 (talk) 17:40, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(by talk reader) @Mikeygio2000: Wikipedia does not allow autobiographies. Writing our encyclopedia does not include using Wikipedia to promote yourself. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:17, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Mikeygio2000: Strictly speaking, autobiography is not forbidden, merely strongly discouraged for the good reason that it is difficult for the subject of a biography to write it to Wikipedia's somewhat demanding standards. More pertinently in your case is that Wikipedia restricts its articles (not "pages": this is not social media) to those topics which are notable by very exacting standards. Otherwise all 7 billion of us on the planet would be justified in having articles about ourselves. According to your User Page, I guess you feel your NCAA Division 1 soccer playing may be notable. Unfortunately, that isn't the case. If you look at Wikipedia's criteria WP:NSOCCER you'll see that only fully professional soccer players (i.e. those paid a salary that they can live on and do not need additional sources of income) would qualify on that basis alone. So my advice is to continue to pursue your dreams in Spain and forget about having any sort of biography here. By all means contribute to the encyclopaedia by adding to its existing articles in areas that interest you: most if not all can be improved.... Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:02, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Masterdog75 (11:34, 8 April 2022)[edit]

Hiya,

I'm trying to upload the logo for the Kenton Theatre to its page, but it keeps getting blocked. Which is a pain! Help ?! (Please) I should point out, I am their PR guy! Just for some reason it's not having this logo at all.

Cheers in advance Samx --Masterdog75 (talk) 11:34, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Masterdog75: I'm happy to help (I'm a theatre fan although usually attend in London)! There are a load of considerations for the Kenton Theatre article, so let's take them slowly and stepwise. First, although the article has existed on Wikipedia since 2006, it would probably not be accepted if it had been drafted and submitted today. Mainly that's because it has no in-line sources that show it is notable in Wikipedia's somewhat strict sense and allow the reader to verify that what's stated is accurate. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, so it seeks to summarise what reliable published information states that's written by people independent of the subject. In this case, this means that the theatre's own website is a poor source and we need to drill down to coverage in books, newspaper articles or scholarly journals. I note that a search at this URL in Google scholar has a few hits that are worthy of follow-up but don't scream out as giving significant coverage. Can you suggest some sources that can back up what the article says (they don't have to be online but they do have to be independently published)?
Thanks for revealing that you are the PR person for the theatre. It's very important to be upfront about this: Wikipedia has mandatory terms and conditions that you must read and fully comply with (see WP:PAID). In particular you need to add to your user page a note about your conflict-of-interest in relation to the theatre. Then you should edit only on the article's talk page at Talk:Kenton Theatre, where I and other interested editors can decide that suggestions you make about changes to the article itself are OK and in particular don't stray into WP:PROMOTION which is strictly forbidden. Make all your suggestions there (not here on my Userpage) from now on and between us we can improve the article.
Finally on the logo of the theatre: by which I assume you mean the text+theatrical masks which I can see on the theatre's website. You need to read WP:LOGO to better understand the issues. Were you to upload the logo to Wikimedia Commons it would have to be released under a license that would allow anyone, anywhere in the world, to use it for any purpose including commercial purposes (without paying the theatre any royalties). As you can imagine, most organisations don't want that and if they do their CEO needs to be aware of this and approve! So, instead, Wikipedia typically takes an approach called "fair use", which allows low-resolution versions of logos to be uploaded here on the English-language Wikipedia and used ONLY within the article about the organisation in question. To do that, you would follow the instructions at WP:FUR, which can be a bit tricky but is certainly possible. I can do this for you if you confirm that the fair-use way is how you wish to go. Just continue editing into this section for getting help on that and anything else you need advice on, as distinct from potential additions to the article. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:06, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Masterdog75: As you will have noted, I have worked on the article Kenton Theatre which has IMO improved it considerably. I could do more if I had access to Bill Port's book. The article could do with some basic photographs of the exterior and the stage as seen from the auditorium. I suggest you take some with your own camera and upload them, as copyright holder, to Wikimedia Commons. Conflict-of-interest does not apply to such uploads (although it would if you attempted to add them to the article, so just let me know here when you're done). Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:08, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Carol Van Strum[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 11 April 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Carol Van Strum, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Carol Van Strum, an environmental activist who wrote the book A Bitter Fog, accumulated 20,000 documents across 40 years that revealed corporate and government cover-ups? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Carol Van Strum. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Carol Van Strum), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Dervishj (11:26, 16 April 2022)[edit]

Hello! Im new on the Wikipedia, I want to translate some things but ı dont know anything about how add languages etc. Please, help me! Thanks! --Dervishj (talk) 11:26, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Dervishj and welcome to Wikipedia! Lots of people help out by translating articles between the various language version of the encyclopaedia and the main advice is given at WP:TRANSLATE. I've never personally done this as my only second language (French) is weak. You may like to take a look at my User Page to see how editors normally tell others about the languages they are competent in, with a "Babel box". You should never attempt to translate articles unless you are fairly competent in both: and don't rely on rough methods like Google translate except to give you a first draft, perhaps. On the English Wikipedia we insist on reliable sources for information, so place as much emphasis on looking at the foreign-language sources as you do on the text that's been based on them. Some of the best translations completely re-write the text based on the sources, rather than slavishly follow the paraphrasing in existing articles. Note that foreign sources are acceptable in English articles but if English-language ones exist they are to be preferred. Get back to me in this Section of my Talk Page if you have more questions once you get going, or use the Teahouse, where new editors will quickly get advice from those with more experience. Good luck! Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:46, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank Dervishj (talk) 15:41, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Kreesa Sales (17:17, 25 April 2022)[edit]

hey Michael, how can I add wiki about my business? --Kreesa Sales (talk) 17:17, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the simple answer is "you can't". Wikipedia forbids promotion and insists that editors who are paid by the company they write about declare that fact (see link). That is a mandatory part of Wikipedia terms and conditions. The company itself would need to be notable in a specific way that yours probably doesn't meet. If your company is notable, then someone unconnected to it would probably already written about it! If you think about it, there are literally millions of companies in the world and billions of people, so Wikipedia has to limit what it covers. You would be better to spend your efforts on the company's own website and social media presence. Mike Turnbull (talk) 06:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Kreesa Sales: pinging you in case you didn't put this page on your watch list. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:38, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tirzepatide[edit]

Hello sir, sorry to come bothering you again. I just wanted to let you know that our article, Tirzepatide, has had an explosion in pageviews (most likely due to Eli & Lilly's Q1 results being posted), the compound has had mentions in large publications such as Bloomberg & MarketWatch, I just thought that was really cool, and our efforts are now visible to more people. X-750 I've made a mistake, haven't I? 10:51, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey X750, that's not bothering me at all — please don't apologise! That's great news and makes the time I spent doing the drawing and describing the chemistry worth the effort.... Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:09, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Most certainly, teamwork makes the dream work! X-750 I've made a mistake, haven't I? 11:45, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

FYI[edit]

I got an answer to my Teahouse question you tried to help with: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#About_previously_deleted_versions_of_an_article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:41, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Tristan lebggg on User:Tristan lebggg (17:24, 13 May 2022)[edit]

Hi, I just joined and I trie to import a photo on my Wikipedia page, and i don’t succeed. Can you help me please?

(I’m on IPad, btw) --Tristan lebggg (talk) 17:24, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Tristan lebggg. I see that whatever you have been doing on your User Page has been removed as not being appropriate there. Please read WP:UPYES to learn what sort of thing is allowed. Placing images on any page uses the same mechanism, explained at WP:IMAGES. Mostly we use images from Wikimedia Commons that are properly licensed from a copyright point of view. You will get into trouble if you try to use images whose copyright status is not clear. May I suggest that you spend some time editing existing articles rather than worrying about your own Userpage? You don't want to be accused of being WP:NOTHERE. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:37, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]