Wikipedia - User contributions [en] 2022-06-30T09:41:44Z User contributions MediaWiki 1.39.0-wmf.17 Media Play 2022-05-05T17:16:54Z <p>2A03:2880:30FF:16:0:0:FACE:B00C: /* Downfall */Jjj</p> <hr /> <div>{{more citations needed|date=January 2011}}<br /> {{Infobox company<br /> | name = Media Play<br /> | logo = <br /> | fate = Closed<br /> | successor = [[Trans World Entertainment]]<br /> | foundation = {{start date and age|1992}}<br /> | defunct = {{end date|2006|2}}<br /> | location = [[Minnetonka, Minnesota]], U.S.<br /> | industry = &lt;!--types of products or services offered--&gt;<br /> | key_people = <br /> | products = &lt;!--some of company's notable products--&gt;<br /> | num_employees = &lt;!--peak number of employees--&gt;<br /> | parent = [[Musicland]]<br /> | subsid = &lt;!--former subsidiaries, if any--&gt;<br /> }}<br /> <br /> '''Media Play''' was a chain of retail stores founded in 1992 by [[Musicland]] that sold [[VHS]], [[DVD]]s, music, [[electronics]], toys, [[video games]], [[anime]], books, and board games similar to [[Hastings Entertainment]], [[Books-a-Million|2nd and Charles]], and [[Half Price Books]]. Each store contained full book, movie, music, and video game sections under one roof. At their height, they operated 72 stores in 19 states with 2,000 employees. The first store opened in [[Rockford, Illinois]], in 1992. Hundreds of stores were slated to be opened, but only 89 ever were. Media Play opened stores from 1992 to 2000.<br /> <br /> Their Replay program was a [[loyalty program]] that allowed members to earn points for purchases which could earn members gift certificates. The same Replay card also worked at [[Sam Goody]] and [[Suncoast Motion Picture Company]] stores.<br /> <br /> In 2001, Musicland was purchased by [[Best Buy]] Co. Inc. for $696 million as part of its initiative to diversify its retail holdings to reach a larger demographic with its consumer electronics and entertainment products. By then, Musicland numbered over 1300 stores. Their intention was to transform Sam Goody into a destination for young people looking for hip electronics. They launched a major remerchandising campaign and converted Musicland's [[On Cue]] concept of rural stores to the Sam Goody brand, reducing its position in books and moving more into video games and DVD.<br /> <br /> ==Downfall==<br /> [[Image:Mediaplay.JPG|rikkght|thumb|Media Play in Rockford, Illinois, later Toys &quot;R&quot; Us (which eventually closed as well)|300px]]<br /> <br /> The store faced strong competition, particularly from websites like, which was founded in 1994 and provided a wider selection than the store-based Media Play. Therefore, despite Best Buy's major efforts, they failed to generate the results they were looking for with Musicland, losing $85 million in 2002. As a result, they put the company up for sale and were likely just weeks away from liquidating the entire chain when they found a buyer in [[Sun Capital Partners]] of Boca Raton, Florida. Sun Capital Partners acquired the company in a cash-free transaction in exchange for acquiring Musicland's debt and leases. Sun Capital attempted to get the company back to basics, but in December 2005 they announced the closure and liquidation of all remaining Media Play stores.<br /> <br /> In December 2005, [[Minnetonka, Minnesota]]–based [[Musicland|Musicland Group]], which owned Media Play, announced it would close all 61 stores by the end of January 2006 and refocus on its Sam Goody and Suncoast chains.&lt;ref&gt;{{cite web |url= |title=AP Wire {{!}} 12/09/2005 {{!}} Musicland Group closing Media Play stores | |url-status=dead |archive-url= |archive-date=2005-12-14}} &lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Media Play had been unprofitable for a number of years. In late 2005, it increased its advertising and sales promotions, but that did not work. It is thought that the unprofitability, caused by competition from [[Wal-Mart]], [[Best Buy]], and online retailers such as, was the major factor in the decision to close the retail chain.<br /> <br /> ===Bankruptcy===<br /> The Musicland Group filed for [[Chapter 11, Title 11, United States Code|Chapter 11 bankruptcy]] in January 2006, and in February announced the closing&lt;ref&gt;{{cite web|url= |accessdate=May 18, 2007 |url-status=dead |archiveurl= |archivedate=July 15, 2006 }}&lt;/ref&gt; of 226 Sam Goody and 115 Suncoast Motion Picture Company stores, and all Media Play locations. Just months after the chain closed, the website was all that remained. In February 2006, Trans World Entertainment Corp. acquired the Musicland Group, which owned Sam Goody, Suncoast, and Some former Media Play stores became home to [[f.y.e.]] [[superstores]] beginning in June 2006.<br /> <br /> == References ==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> * {{Official website|*/|Archive of official website}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Companies based in Rockford, Illinois]]<br /> [[Category:Companies based in Minnetonka, Minnesota]]<br /> [[Category:Defunct retail companies of the United States]]<br /> [[Category:Defunct companies based in Minnesota]]<br /> [[Category:Companies that filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 2006]]<br /> [[Category:Retail companies established in 1992]]<br /> [[Category:Retail companies disestablished in 2006]]</div> 2A03:2880:30FF:16:0:0:FACE:B00C Talk:Chemical reaction 2022-03-25T15:30:15Z <p>2A03:2880:30FF:16:0:0:FACE:B00C: /* Chemical reactions, composition and decomposition */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>{{Vital article|level=3|topic=Science|class=B}}<br /> {{DYK talk|15 December|2010|entry=... that some '''[[chemical reaction]]s''' are used for [[welding]] rail tracks ''(example pictured)''?}}<br /> {{WikiProject Chemistry|class=B|importance=top}}<br /> {{WP1.0|class=B|importance=Low|category=category|VA=yes}}<br /> {{Translated page|de|Chemische Reaktion}}<br /> {{merged from|Chemical transformation|12 July 2018}}<br /> <br /> ==Distinguish &quot;synthesis&quot; from &quot;reaction&quot; and avoid list of reactions==<br /> This text was removed, as it does not belong in the main text, but rather in Talk about this topic:<br /> <br /> :''Note: a enumeration of the types of chemical reactions is needed''&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Edited by D.C.<br /> <br /> We're going to have problems with some editors, because it seems they have no practical experience with what real chemists, in real usage, call a [[chemical synthesis]]. This corruption of use, which started in the [[chemical synthesis]] article, seems to be migrating to this article as well, and it will be stopped :). The next point is that this article should not be ended with a brainless enumeration of kinds of chemical reactions, but it could be well served by a series of links to Wikipedia articles on types of chemical reactions, articles which already exist within the Wikipedia. For example there already are articles on [[hydrolysis]] and one on the [[hydration reaction]]. Other articles on chemical reactions are embedded in the article on the compound itself (e.g. [[soap]] and saponification). [[User:Dwmyers|Dwmyers]] 23:05, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==From PNA/Chemistry==<br /> *[[Chemical reaction]] - This page needs a lot of work by someone with more chemistry knowledge than I have. The energetics of reactions need to be cleared up, and links made to pages like [[reaction coordinate]]s, [[transition state]]s, [[reactive intermediate]], and such. There is a list of the &quot;6 types of reactions&quot;, which other people have added to, with reactions that don't seem to fit into those six categories. The reaction rate section is almost nonexistent, the &quot;Law of mass action&quot; section is just one line (how about some history, or a more detailed explanation?). Finally, the &quot;See also&quot; list needs serious expansion.<br /> <br /> :This page could become a central point for articles dealing with chemical reactions, but as it stands, it is orphaned from a lot of them, and quite incomplete. --[[User:Kierano|Kieran]] 12:04, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==More==<br /> This article was not written by a person with much knowledge about chemical reactions. Chemist is needed to rewright it. [[stone]] 6 Apr 2005<br /> <br /> *It's a tough job, even for a chemist! [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] 21:25, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)<br /> **Especially since what at least I think is needed is a rather extensive restructuring of wikipedia articles (plural!). It is probably difficult to reach a consensus on such a structure (different fields of chemistry have a somehwat different way to look at these things). I'm a newbie in the wiki-world so such a task is way over my head, but maybe there could be a discussion somewhere on how to best structure information about [[chemical reaction|chemical reactions]], [[rate law]], [[mass balance]], [[chemical equilibrium]] etc. Other connected articles are [[Reversible reaction]], [[Chemical kinetics]], [[Exothermic reaction]], [[Endothermic reaction]], [[Gibbs free energy]], [[Thermodynamics]] just to mention a few. The current structure seems to me as a bit waste of many peoples hard effort. By the way, there is a wiki book project on chemical engineering. Much of what's in the wikipedia (mentioned above) would be needed there too. [[User:Saittam|Saittam]] 12 Aug 2005<br /> <br /> ==Six types of chemical reaction?==<br /> Is this correct? Where do the additional reactions that have been added under this section fit in? I would like to fix that section, so the entries at the bottom of the list look like the rest of them, but I'm holding back because of the &quot;six types&quot; statement. --[[User:Kierano|Kieran]] 11:10, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> *That seems like a useful thing to fix but I think more pressing would be the fact that there are so many pages scattered around that this article links to. Some of these pages would be the types of chemical reactions. These could easily be put into this same article so that it is easier to access. [[User:Aznph8playa|Aznph8playa]] 00:44, 30 May 2005 (UTC)<br /> There is always [[:Category:Chemical reactions]] which this article could (and should) refer to... Yes, it's a big job, but... [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] 21:23, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Level we're aiming at ==<br /> <br /> The trouble with this stuff is that it's hard to aim it at the right level -as a degree chemist it's fairly hard to think back to when I didn't know anything about chemical reactions. Maybe I should borrow some chem textbooks for 13-year olds and see what they write?<br /> <br /> Also why does 'compound' not occur in the introduction? argh! It really needs a full rewrite of the intro but not really sure what.<br /> <br /> [[User:Excession|Excession]] 5 July 2005 08:23 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I don't think we should be aiming at a 13-year old level: in France, the reaction formalism is introduced at about age 16 (class of ''Seconde''), although we talk about ''chemical transformations'' before then. Thanks to all those who are trying to do something with this article, it seems beyond me to improve it for the moment however much it needs it! [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] 5 July 2005 08:41 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===13-year-old is a good level anywhere===<br /> <br /> Why can't we aim at a 13-year-old level? It would be valuable, for example, in the discussion of thermodynamics, to state simply how combustion creates heat. Where does heat come from? Just saying that there is a reduction of mass is not an explanation. We cannot assume that our readers have the same level of understanding or literacy as we do. The simpler the language, the bigger the audience. [[User:Bdubay|Bdubay]] ([[User talk:Bdubay|talk]]) 04:36, 24 July 2012 (UTC)<br /> :Why 13 and not 10 yo or 19 yo? Maybe is a better venue for simplified articles. [[User:Materialscientist|Materialscientist]] ([[User talk:Materialscientist|talk]]) 04:58, 24 July 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == E = mc^2 and chemical energy?==<br /> consider the reaction H + H -&gt; H2 + Q<br /> <br /> E = mc^2 is independent of the form of matter. and the energy contained on both sides of chemical reaction formula is equal. so is it right to assume the mass of H2 is slightly less than 2 H atoms?<br /> :Yes, indeed! Any transformation that involves a change in energy also involves a change in mass.--[[User:Nevermore78|Nevermore78]] 01:20, 3 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Not so quick! Liberated energy in a bond-forming process like this comes from electron stabilization (that is, reduction of potential energy) due to, in a common way of describing it, the formation of more stable bonding molecular orbitals. There is no significant mass-energy coversion contribution on that. --[[User:Duplode|Duplode]] 01:37, 3 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> No, e=mc^2 applies to the actual energy of mass itself, not a chemical bond. Chemical reactions release chemical energy but only a nuclear reaction releases nuclear energy. In a nuclear reactor you actually get a little less fuel out then you put in.--[[User:Crucible Guardian|Crucible Guardian]] 03:28, 6 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Chemical equilibrium==<br /> The phasing of the concept of an irreversible reaction seems oddly stif.<br /> :&quot;This phrase means that nearly all of the reactants are &lt;s&gt;used&lt;/s&gt; to form products. These reactions are very difficult to reverse even under extreme conditions.&quot;<br /> 'Used'? Would 'expended' fit better?<br /> And could we perhaps add an example of such a reaction? Combustion of methane or hydrogen seem to be less than ideal examples, but surely we can find an informative example. -- [[User talk:Ec5618|Ec5618]] 18:34, 1 February 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Example combustion reaction==<br /> ::C&lt;sub&gt;10&lt;/sub&gt;H&lt;sub&gt;8&lt;/sub&gt; (g) + 12O&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt; (g) → 10CO&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt; (g) + 4H&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt;O (l)<br /> Does not combustion normally produce water vapour (gas, not a liquid)? Shouldn't the last element be 4H&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt;O (g)? - [[User:Mike Rosoft|Mike Rosoft]] 14:34, 10 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :If you are using the equation to describe the process of measuring the heat of combustion at a temperature of 25C, then you give the reactants and products in their natural state at that temperature. Think of it starting at 25C, it burns and then everything cools back to 25C. The water condenses. The equation is correct. --[[User:Bduke|Bduke]] 21:49, 10 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::It's &quot;correct&quot;, sort of, but describes a different process. This process doesn't involve only a chemical reaction, but also a heat transfer ''after'' the reaction has taken place. So, it's two processes bundled up for no good reason. --[[User:Vuo|Vuo]] 01:13, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::It is not normal to put &quot;+ heat&quot; in a chemical equation. That is out of date useage. You might add the heat or rather enthalpy of reaction after the equation (ΔH = xx kJ/mol). It is clear that heat is given out because it is a combustion reaction. Your last edit is wrong. The states should be all at standard temperature or specifically 25C. What we want here is an exact correct balanced chemical equation. I'm going to leave it for now and see what others think. --[[User:Bduke|Bduke]] 02:27, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::In fact, in that section, the phases are irrelevant. --[[User:Vuo|Vuo]] 20:30, 15 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thermodynamics section ==<br /> <br /> As much of this article, the thermochemistry discussion here is unecessarly confusing and ambiguous. Why to discuss kinetics with two whole paragraphs on thermochemistry's lead? Or why presenting the general criteria of spontaniety (Gibbs Free Energy/Global Entropy) almost as an exception? Applying high school assumptions here won't make the topic that much amiable. I am thinking on a way of rephrasing things on that section, but I have not quite a solid formulation ATM. In the meantime, I invite fellow editos to clarify things - particularly if one knows some Physical Chemistry...--[[User:Duplode|Duplode]] 05:26, 14 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Well....feel free to fix it! --[[User:Crucible Guardian|Crucible Guardian]] 03:46, 6 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Phase Change ==<br /> <br /> is a phase change 9i.e. evaporation or condensation) a chemical reaction? --[[User:Crucible Guardian|Crucible Guardian]] 03:46, 6 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :No, it's usually considered to be just a physical process in simple cases like water boiling or freezing. There are many cases where it ''could'' be considered as a chemical reaction - for example, solid [[sulfur]] is mainly S&lt;sub&gt;8&lt;/sub&gt;, sulfur vapor is S&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt;, so clearly some covalent bonds are broken in going from solid to vapor. [[User:Walkerma|Walkerma]] 07:01, 6 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == By-product ==<br /> <br /> Shoudn't there be a link to this page that allready links here ? [[User:Samusz|samusz]] 12:22, 4 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == reaction types ==<br /> <br /> someone needs to reword the first sentence of this subheading, someone's idea of a sick joke.[[User:|]] 23:06, 5 September 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == State Functions ==<br /> <br /> I think we should edit the example equations to include state functions (g, aq, l, s) to help with understanding.[[User:|]] 03:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Repeated vandalism==<br /> I tried to correct the current vandalism but couldn't see the original sentence (that was changed) at the beginning of the article. Also, looking back at previous revisions, there has been a fair amount of vandalism in the past. [[User:Aboyall|Aboyall]] 19:58, 24 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == &quot;Thermodynamically favored&quot; ==<br /> <br /> I reverted the recent change, back to &quot;thermodynamically favored.&quot; This is a standard term in chemistry, and it gets [;start=0&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official over 83,000 hits in Google]. By contrast, &quot;favored in a thermodynamical way&quot; [;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&amp;hs=4Q3&amp;q=%22favored+in+a+thermodynamical+way%22&amp;btnG=Search gets no hits]. [[User:Walkerma|Walkerma]] 05:27, 30 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Still not quite sharp... ==<br /> <br /> It seems this particular article, by the pursue of simplicity in explanation and sharpness in classification, always has its focus, breadth and accuracy at stake. I have attempted to clarify some wordings and, more importantly, performed a number of deletions, which I put up for discussion:<br /> <br /> ''On the classical definition, therefore, there are only two types of chemical reaction: redox reactions and acid-base reactions. The former involve the motion of lone electrons and the latter of an electron pair.''<br /> <br /> Overtly restrictive. Think of cis-trans isometization: one might argue the reaction can be mechanistically be described in terms of homo/heterolytic bond cleavage/forming, but it is doubtful whether saying the reaction as a whole is redox or acid-base is relevant or even viable. Or even better, think of pericyclic reactions.<br /> <br /> ''Chemical reactions are also divided into organic reactions and inorganic reactions.''<br /> <br /> So people really think classification is important enough to go on the lead. Not to mention organometalic chemistry.<br /> <br /> ''The collision of more than two particles into the ordered structure necessary to perform chemical transformations is extremely unlikely; which is why ternary reactions in practice are not observed. A chemical reaction may require three or more reagents, but the process can generally be decomposed into a stepwise series or a set of [[stepwise reaction]]s of the above.''<br /> <br /> Although I have not removed this, it feels completely misplaced under the &quot;Reaction Types&quot; heading. And if &quot;the above&quot; refered to the list of types two paragraphs before, it was plain catastrophic constraining -hence, the rewording.<br /> <br /> '' * Petrochemical reactions are often distinguished from other organic reactions.''<br /> <br /> So are biochemical reactions, or drug syntheses, or polymerizations, or...<br /> <br /> ''[ Online Chemical Equation Balancer] Balances equation of any chemical reaction (full or half-cell) in one click.''<br /> <br /> This looked like improper in regards to WP external link policy.<br /> <br /> Finally a reminder: Going too far into adapting content to junior textbooks results in dellusion, even more so for those very juniors. <br /> <br /> --Duplode 03:54, 30 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Standardized use of (s) (aq) etc. symbols is needed ==<br /> <br /> Wikipedia must make up its mind which way to do things.<br /> <br /> *Ag&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt;O(s)<br /> *Ag&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt;O&lt;sub&gt;(s)&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> *Ag&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt;O(''s'')<br /> <br /> [[Special:Contributions/|]] ([[User talk:|talk]]) 05:01, 10 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Merge chemical change here? ==<br /> <br /> Is there really any difference between [[chemical change]] and [[chemical reaction]]? I suggest merging the two articles. --[[User:Itub|Itub]] ([[User talk:Itub|talk]]) 12:02, 16 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : As far as I can tell, &quot;chemical change&quot; and &quot;physical change&quot; are terms that we traditionally teach to junior high students because we traditionally teach them to junior high school students. The term &quot;chemical change&quot; is almost always used in contrast to &quot;physical change.&quot; The comparisons are frequently confusing, poorly documented in textbooks, and poorly taught. The chemical change article focuses mostly on the contrast, and is written at an elementary level.<br /> <br /> : It seems to me that people very rarely use the term &quot;chemical change&quot; when they are discussing a particular reaction. Then they use &quot;chemical reaction.&quot; The &quot;chemical reaction&quot; article is suited for that purpose. It is written at a scholarly level.<br /> <br /> : I monitor both the [[physical change]] and [[chemical change]] articles. They get vandalised by junior high students because the terms are only used for junior high students, and only junior high students visit the articles. The vandals are sufficiently frustrated by the simple words and examples in those articles - they will be much nastier if they are forced to try to figure out the chemical reaction page.<br /> <br /> : I would keep the chemical change article separate from the chemical reaction article, but would recommend that the introductory paragraph for the change article be given some strong &quot;see also chemical reaction&quot; wording. [[User:Ronstew|Ronstew]] ([[User talk:Ronstew|talk]]) 15:05, 16 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ok, that sounds like a good option. Let's just wait a few days and see if anyone else wants to comment. --[[User:Itub|Itub]] ([[User talk:Itub|talk]]) 14:09, 17 June 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == &quot;Defined in opposition to inorganic reactions&quot;? ==<br /> <br /> Under Organic Reactions is this sentence fragment: &quot;Defined in opposition to inorganic reactions.&quot;<br /> <br /> I would think that inorganic reactions are defined in opposition to organic reactions, if anything. Somebody more knowledgeable than me should either delete the fragment or write it as a complete sentence and expand it a bit. [[User:Ronstew|Ronstew]] ([[User talk:Ronstew|talk]]) 05:59, 9 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Equation Section ==<br /> <br /> To the best of my knowledge, the mechanism for the [[Baeyer-Villiger oxidation]] in the equation section is wrong. For one, the protonation of the tetrahedral intermediate cannot be concerted with the attack and moreover there is good evidence that it never occurs, with collapse of the tetrahedral intermediate occuring without proton transfer from the peroxy group to the carbonyl oxygen.<br /> <br /> Thoughts? [[User:Mdlevin|Mdlevin]] ([[User talk:Mdlevin|talk]]) 04:41, 15 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Oxidation state or number ==<br /> The article currently says: ''Oxidation is better defined as an increase in oxidation number''. Looking at [[oxidation number]] I get the impression that this expression is used for a rather constrained range of phenomena and that [[oxidation state]] fits better to the context in this article. --[[User:Ettrig|Ettrig]] ([[User talk:Ettrig|talk]]) 16:13, 18 March 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Redirect?==<br /> <br /> Is a &quot;Men in Trees&quot; episode significant enough relative to &quot;chemical reactions&quot; as they are understood here to warrant a redirect at the top of the page? I can't imagine anyone who'd say it was. Maybe if the television show itself was called &quot;Chemical Reactions,&quot; but an episode? &lt;span style=&quot;font-size: smaller;&quot; class=&quot;autosigned&quot;&gt;— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/|]] ([[User talk:|talk]]) 09:50, 3 May 2012 (UTC)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!-- Template:Unsigned IP --&gt; &lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&gt;<br /> :I agree that it is unnecessary and have removed it. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 11:41, 3 May 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Chemical Equilibrium ==<br /> <br /> I changed the last sentence of this section to more accurately state the situation. It is based on the college text by Zumdahl &amp; Zumdahl covering this subject. They carefully distinguish between the equilibrium condition, and the equilibrium position. [[User:Thermbal|Thermbal]] ([[User talk:Thermbal|talk]]) 04:20, 20 June 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Thermodynamics ==<br /> <br /> In reference to the Boudouard reaction of CO2 + C to form 2CO, this reaction is ENDOTHERMIC at ALL temperatures. Easy to check this out by going to the FACT-web site, using their Reaction tool-- It's heat of reaction is +172.47 kJ at 298.15 K, and +158.98 at 2000 K. Also, authors shouldn't cite a heat of reaction without referring specifically to the temperature of the reaction. [[User:Thermbal|Thermbal]] ([[User talk:Thermbal|talk]]) 04:41, 20 June 2013 (UTC)<br /> :I removed the reference to the Boudouard reaction, and replaced it with 2 different reactions. With temperature, one has a reversal in the enthalpy, the other has a reversal in the sign of log Keq, which is equivalent to a change in the sign of the standard Gibbs free energy of the reaction. <br /> Suggestion: article editors/writers are urged to include, for each chemical reaction, wherever written in Wikipedia, ''phase'' descriptors. Subscripts like (g) and (s) tell the reader whether the species in a reaction is a gas, a solid, or what. [[User:Thermbal|Thermbal]] ([[User talk:Thermbal|talk]]) 19:38, 18 July 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Metal-acid reaction ==<br /> <br /> If [[metal-acid reaction]] redirects here (and it does) there really ought to be a clear, easy-to-find subsection on this particular kind of reaction. Maybe I'm missing it, but on a quick scan (with the help of Ctrl-f) I can't actually find anything here about what happens when metals react with acids. --[[User:Oolong|Oolong]] ([[User talk:Oolong|talk]]) 11:46, 2 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2018 ==<br /> <br /> {{edit semi-protected|Chemical reaction|answered=yes}}<br /> [[Special:Contributions/|]] ([[User talk:|talk]]) 13:08, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br /> :[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a &quot;change X to Y&quot; format and provide a [[Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.&lt;!-- Template:ESp --&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml&quot;&gt;[[User:L293D|&lt;b style=&quot;color:#060&quot;&gt;L293D&lt;/b&gt;]]&amp;nbsp;([[User talk:L293D#top|&lt;b style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;☎&lt;/b&gt;]]&amp;nbsp;•&amp;nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/L293D|&lt;b style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;✎&lt;/b&gt;]])&lt;/span&gt; 13:10, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2018 ==<br /> <br /> {{edit semi-protected|Chemical reaction|answered=yes}}<br /> [[User:Laxusgajeel|Laxusgajeel]] ([[User talk:Laxusgajeel|talk]]) 05:55, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br /> :[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a &quot;change X to Y&quot; format and provide a [[Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.&lt;!-- Template:ESp --&gt; [[User:DannyS712|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712|talk]]) 06:25, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Chemical reactions section lists the wrong number of reactions ==<br /> <br /> I am not a science expert but the section for types has a header that says &quot;four basic types&quot; then lists synthesis, decomposition, single-replacement, double-replacement, and combustionm which are five types. Not sure if the number of types of reactions is wrong or the list of types is wrong but this is confusing. [[User:AaronY|AaronY]] ([[User talk:AaronY|talk]]) 11:15, 24 March 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Semi-protected edit request on 21 August 2021 ==<br /> <br /> {{edit semi-protected|Chemical reaction|answered=yes}}<br /> Please add an another characteristic of chemical reaction &quot;Change on colour&quot; [[Special:Contributions/|]] ([[User talk:|talk]]) 16:35, 21 August 2021 (UTC)<br /> :[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a &quot;change X to Y&quot; format and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.&lt;!-- Template:ESp --&gt; [[User:ScottishFinnishRadish|ScottishFinnishRadish]] ([[User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish|talk]]) 17:40, 21 August 2021 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Natural sciences ==<br /> <br /> Photosynthesis [[Special:Contributions/|]] ([[User talk:|talk]]) 15:39, 3 February 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The article does have a section on Photochemical reactions. [[User:Dirac66|Dirac66]] ([[User talk:Dirac66|talk]]) 18:41, 3 February 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Chemical reactions, composition and decomposition ==<br /> <br /> Vh [[Special:Contributions/2A03:2880:30FF:16:0:0:FACE:B00C|2A03:2880:30FF:16:0:0:FACE:B00C]] ([[User talk:2A03:2880:30FF:16:0:0:FACE:B00C|talk]]) 15:30, 25 March 2022 (UTC)</div> 2A03:2880:30FF:16:0:0:FACE:B00C Talk:Apple of my eye 2022-02-15T23:34:32Z <p>2A03:2880:30FF:16:0:0:FACE:B00C: /* Apple of my eye */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>{{Etymology section|class=good}}<br /> <br /> ==Untitled==<br /> Anyone who knows Old English, please try for a better (more literal) translation of King Alfred's text.<br /> <br /> Explanations of etymology and phrases often sound a bit dubious; but without refs for the interpretations, a lot of this article seems like original research. Citations please. [[Special:Contributions/|]] ([[User talk:|talk]]) 07:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---<br /> this is retarded. apples aren't even round - and there are plenty of truly round things like the moon or whatnot.<br /> <br /> you suck. &lt;small&gt;—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/|]] ([[User talk:|talk]]) 03:20, 4 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;!-- Contemplative --&gt; &lt;!--Auto signed by Sine Bot--&gt;<br /> <br /> The translation of 'applause' given, as 'pupil' is valid, in that the word was used for both a general term for fruit and for the pupil of the eye, but it is not very helpful, because it means that the modern English translation of the quotation which is supposed to be the earliest instance of the phrase 'apple of my eye' does not actually contain the most important word 'apple'.<br /> <br /> However, this actually serves to illustrate the fact that whilst this may be an example of an early use of the phrase itself, it is clearly not being used in the sense in which it is used today. The writer here is referring to the actual pupils of someone's eyes, and not a figurative object of someone's affection. Indeed 'applause' occurs only in the plural in this phrase, which is contrary to the phrase's definition: &quot;something, but usually someone [and thus singular] that one cherishes above all others&quot;.<br /> <br /> It is relevant to use this quotation on this page, but only as an suggestion of how the phrase came into being rather than an example of its use. &lt;span style=&quot;font-size: smaller;&quot; class=&quot;auto signed&quot;&gt;— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/|]] ([[User talk:|talk]]) 14:42, 14 December 2012 (UTC)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!-- Template:Unsigned IP --&gt; &lt;!--Auto signed by Sine Bot--&gt;<br /> <br /> '''בבה is not an apple.''''''Bold text'''<br /> As an Hebrew speaker, Bava is not an apple, but a pupil. It should have been &quot;the pupil of the eye&quot; and not &quot;the apple of the eye&quot;.[[User:Noavic|Noavic]] ([[User talk:Noavic|talk]]) 06:42, 17 February 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Apple of one's eye (Old English), symbol of what is most cherished, was the pupil, supposed to be a globular solid body (<br /> Also, earlier English translations of the Bible included the phrase, as it was the Tyndale Bible which was trying to use common phrases to be easy to understand, and the KJV was trying to be a conservative translation, sticking with tradition. ( &lt;small class=&quot;autosigned&quot;&gt;—&amp;nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/|]] ([[User talk:|talk]]) 20:12, 11 June 2016 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;!-- Template:Unsigned IP --&gt; &lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Merge discussion==<br /> Clearly [[Apple of one's eye]] covers the same subject matter as this article and should be merged into it.&amp;nbsp;–&amp;nbsp;[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 12:49, 26 April 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Cleanup ==<br /> <br /> This article is a mess. [[User:AmericanLeMans|AmericanLeMans]] ([[User talk:AmericanLeMans|talk]]) 18:23, 24 October 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Quality good?? ==<br /> <br /> How can this be good quality? It's a true mess. The article gives no sense of the use of apple as a term for pupil, yet this is the whole crux. This is not original research, it is a simple matter of looking it up in the OED. Apple as a term for the pupil begins in old english, and it continues to occur as a reference that readers will understand through the 19th century; it not until the 20th cent. that it is clearly a historical term. &quot;Apple&quot; thus PREDATES the word &quot;pupil&quot;, which has one questionable 15th century example, but otherwise dates from late 16th cent.<br /> <br /> From the title, the article seems to want to claim that &quot;apple of my eye&quot; is an idiom, meaning &quot;something precious to me&quot;; but since apple is the original word in English for pupil, the original meaning of the phrase is simply that the pupil is the most valuable part of the eye; if this is a metaphor, it goes back to Deuteronomy, and is used throughout the Old Testament. Everyone else, in Latin, English, French, German, or whatever, is just borrowing this biblical sense.<br /> <br /> What is the point of even putting this sort of etymological stuff in an encyclopedia? Another article written to win a bar room bet. [[User:Rgr09|Rgr09]] ([[User talk:Rgr09|talk]]) 18:05, 5 June 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == External links modified ==<br /> <br /> Hello fellow Wikipedians,<br /> <br /> I have just modified {{plural:1|one external link|1 external links}} on [[Apple of my eye]]. Please take a moment to review [;oldid=744645095 my edit]. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit [[User:Cyberpower678/FaQs#InternetArchiveBot|this simple FaQ]] for additional information. I made the following changes:<br /> *Added archive to<br /> <br /> When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the ''checked'' parameter below to '''true''' or '''failed''' to let others know (documentation at {{tlx|Sourcecheck}}).<br /> <br /> {{sourcecheck|checked=false}}<br /> <br /> Cheers.—[[User:InternetArchiveBot|'''&lt;span style=&quot;color:darkgrey;font-family:monospace&quot;&gt;InternetArchiveBot&lt;/span&gt;''']] &lt;span style=&quot;color:green;font-family:Rockwell&quot;&gt;([[User talk:InternetArchiveBot|Report bug]])&lt;/span&gt; 15:34, 16 October 2016 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Apple of my eye ==<br /> <br /> So what does it simply mean. I need to know [[Special:Contributions/2A03:2880:30FF:16:0:0:FACE:B00C|2A03:2880:30FF:16:0:0:FACE:B00C]] ([[User talk:2A03:2880:30FF:16:0:0:FACE:B00C|talk]]) 23:34, 15 February 2022 (UTC)</div> 2A03:2880:30FF:16:0:0:FACE:B00C Wikipedia:Help desk 2022-01-23T07:41:11Z <p>2A03:2880:30FF:16:0:0:FACE:B00C: /* Pregnancy but without sex */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>{{Short description|Community dynamic help}}{{/Header}} <br /> [[Category:Wikipedia help pages with dated sections]]<br /> &lt;div style=&quot;width:51%;&quot;&gt;__tOC__&lt;/div&gt;<br /> &lt;!-- This page is for the answers you need to know about the use of Wikipedia! --&gt;<br /> &lt;!-- For queries and general knowledge questions, please use the [[Wikipedia:Reference Desk]]! --&gt;<br /> &lt;!-- Ask your question at the bottom of this page and it will be answered shortly.! --&gt;<br /> <br /> = January 20 =<br /> <br /> == Creating a page ==<br /> <br /> Hello,<br /> I am looking for someone who is experienced in creating pages to create one for &quot;Jessie Bee,&quot; a person I know. I don't know much about Wikipedia, so I would create it myself but I don't know how. I also don't know how to ask people to create a page so I am writing this in hope that someone helps me.<br /> Thank you,<br /> Aaronairout &lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autosigned&quot; style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;—&amp;nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Aaronairout|Aaronairout]] ([[User talk:Aaronairout#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aaronairout|contribs]]) 00:14, 20 January 2022 (UTC)&lt;/span&gt; &lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&gt;<br /> :Well, there's [[Wikipedia:Requested articles]], but I wouldn't count on that actually resulting in an article being written. Tips on doing it yourself can be found at [[Help:Your first article]]. The standard advice is that if the person is truly [[WP:N|notable]] someone will write an article on them eventually. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 01:08, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :Hi there! Since you know Jessie Bee, please also read the [[Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide]]. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 03:31, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :{{U|Aaronairout}} Has anyone written anything about Jessie Bee before? A quick google search turns up a YouTube channel, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, etc. It looks like she considers herself an influencer/content creator, however, I can't find anywhere where any [[WP:RS|reliable source]] has independently written about her (that doesn't mean such sources don't exist, just that I didn't find them in the 5 or so minutes I was willing to spend googling her right now). The gist of all our [[WP:GNG|&quot;notability&quot; guidelines]] is that a topic is notable if it has &quot;received significant coverage in {{strong|multiple published}}&lt;ref name=&quot;note2&quot;&gt;What constitutes a &quot;published work&quot; is deliberately broad.&lt;/ref&gt; {{strong|[[Wikipedia:No original research#Primary, secondary and tertiary sources|secondary sources]]}} that are {{strong|[[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable]]}}, {{strong|intellectually independent}} of each other,&lt;ref&gt;Sources that are pure derivatives of an original source can be used as references, but do not contribute toward establishing the notability of a subject. &quot;Intellectual independence&quot; requires not only that the content of sources be non-identical, but also that the entirety of content in a published work not be derived from (or based in) another work (partial derivations are acceptable). For example, a speech by a politician about a particular person contributes toward establishing the notability of that person, but multiple reproductions of the transcript of that speech by different news outlets do not. A biography written about a person contributes toward establishing their notability, but a summary of that biography lacking an original intellectual contribution does not.&lt;/ref&gt; and {{strong|[[Wikipedia:Independent sources|independent of the subject]]}}.&lt;ref&gt;Autobiography and self-promotion are not the routes to having an encyclopedia article. The barometer of notability is whether people {{em|independent}} of the subject itself have actually considered the subject notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works that focus upon it. Thus, entries in biographical dictionaries that accept self-nominations (such as the [[Marquis Who's Who]]) do not contribute toward notability, nor do web pages about an organization's own staff or members.&lt;/ref&gt;&quot; If such sources exist in substantial numbers, then an article could be written here for her. If such sources do not exist, '''do not attempt to write an article, do not attempt to pay someone else to write an article, down that road lies only heartbreak'''. ~ ''[[User:ONUnicorn|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0cc&quot;&gt;ONUnicorn&lt;/span&gt;]]''&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:ONUnicorn|Talk]]&amp;#124;[[Special:Contributions/ONUnicorn|Contribs]])&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;[[WP:P&amp;amp;S|problem solving]]&lt;/small&gt; 16:04, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> {{reflist-talk}}<br /> <br /> == 33 images added as war propaganda ==<br /> <br /> I'm not sure where to go with this spaghetti mess. I did the research, have the evidence and conclusions, but don't know how to get these deleted.<br /> <br /> While trying to research 33 images that were added by two users, two edits, into a single article — [[Mekelle]], an Ethiopian town ([;oldid=1065185490#Gallery see the gallery of 33]) — I realized that these images were ''not'' of the town. These images had been uploaded by four Wikimedia users, each with similar usernames, naming the files in the same pattern as each other. I think the 4 Wikimedia accounts and the 2 Wikipedia accounts were being operated by the same person. However, they are old enough (2020) to be too stale for a checkuser, and these are the ''only'' edits these users made.<br /> <br /> The filenames do ''not'' match the subject of the images, and the first users (1 [ uploading 11 files], and 1 [ who added them to the article]) wouldn't clarify the content/caption of the images, though [;diff=next&amp;oldid=965480890 they were asked back then], in July 2020. Three other Wikimedia accounts uploaded 22 more similarly-named images over a two-day period in November 2020, [] [] [] and a second Wikipedia account [;diff=prev&amp;oldid=988177572 added them 5 hours later] to the [[Mekelle]] article.<br /> <br /> I have identified most of the 33 images and removed the entire gallery from the article. Very few of the images are from the town of Mekelle (they come from all over Ethiopia). Many are vintage photographs taken by the Italians documenting their [[Italian Ethiopia|WWII occupation]] using their own [[Istituto Luce|photography agency]], some are more current tourist agency photos, and some are just undescribed though many of them appear in Facebook and other places online. Most have no attribution, or false attribution. For example, some of the WWII images were uploaded saying their photography date was 1956 and they were published in Ethiopia, when in fact the photos were taken in 1935 &amp; 1936 and published in Italy. The copyright rules in those two countries are different.<br /> <br /> A few have 'sources' which are wrong; listing 5 sources for each of several images — 1 is a medical center (completely irrelevant), 3 lead to a professor in Japan who did research on Ethiopian architecture, and 1 to a 2018 book which I have no access to. I contacted the professor and though they recognized some of the vintage images and the subjects of some of the newer images, they said they weren't theirs and didn't use these in their works. In other words, the source given by the Wikimedia user is false. <br /> <br /> At least one of these images has already been taken from Commons and published online while thinking [wrongly] that its [false] filename represented a town called &quot;Woyane&quot; (it does not). [ This article] uses the phrase &quot;The image above is the historic center of Woyane, the town where Tigrayan peasants rebelled against their oppression under the Shoan elite in 1943,&quot; which is untrue. The image ([[:Commons:File:ታሪካዊ መህል ወያነ ፮ ሽድሽተ Historic Center of Woyane.jpg]]) is of [[Gunda Gunde Monastery]] in a remote hard-to-reach mountain location, and there is no town named &quot;Woyane&quot;. &quot;Woyane&quot; is used for pro-Tigray advocacy, and several of the images have a pro-Tigray &quot;battle cry&quot; written into them, including the one I just linked to right above. The uploading account lists the date as &quot;4 November 2020&quot;, which is the ''start date of the [[Tigray War]]'', and was uploaded a mere 6 days after the start of the war.<br /> <br /> In other words, '''the user used these uploads as war propaganda for their viewpoints related to a current ongoing military conflict!'''<br /> <br /> I recently removed all 33 images from the [[Mekelle]] article and I recommend all 33 images be deleted. They appear in Commons ''and'' as a File in Wikipedia. I have spent 3 or 4 days identifying these photos, researching and documenting how they were uploaded/added, and the above is but a ''short summary'' of my findings/notes (tip of iceberg). I have no idea how to go about cleaning up this mess. I am familiar with [[WP:AFD]] (including bundled) and [[WP:SPI]] processes, but this is a lot more complicated than just that (and AFD doesn't apply to images or Commons). I've never before gotten involved in [[WP:IFD]] or anything related to images. The complexity of this case and the Wikipedia bureaucracy has me stumped on this one. Any ideas how I should proceed? Or is someone willing to communicate with me further about this and take over the &quot;filing&quot; (nomination) process to get this done? [[User:Platonk|Platonk]] ([[User talk:Platonk|talk]]) 06:33, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Just to add to this, the description of the &quot;Historic Centre of Woyane&quot; file noted above reads &lt;blockquote&gt;Tegaru protect the TIGRAY your freedom and democracy from Eritrean and Ethiopian dictators from envious thieves and murderers protect the history of your ancestors who built the true history of Ethiopia over the centuries and drive away the who want a new genocide of the Tigrayans and the Tigrayans culture. protect the sacrifices of the Tigrayans martyrs&lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> :Very clearly a propaganda message &lt;span style=&quot;background-color:lightblue&quot;&gt;'''''&amp;nbsp;[[User:Velella|Velella]]&amp;nbsp;'''''&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;background-color:lightblue&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;sup&gt;''[[User talk:Velella|Velella]] Talk ''&lt;/sup&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; 09:31, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *{{re|Platonk}} If your problem is about sending the files to deletion, [[WP:TWINKLE]] works very similarly between AfD and FfD (you have switched on Twinkle, right?). If your problem is that you think there is more to be digged but do not have the time/energy to do it, I suppose [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard]] would be a good place to start with a short summary. [[User:Tigraan|&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Tahoma;color:#008000;&quot;&gt;Tigraan&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Tigraan|&lt;span title=&quot;Send me a silicium letter!&quot; style=&quot;color:&quot;&gt;Click here for my talk page (&quot;private&quot; contact)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sup&gt; 14:04, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ** {{Reply|Tigraan}} Twinkle doesn't work in Commons, and isn't useful for &quot;bundled&quot; deletion requests in 'Pedia. [[User:Platonk|Platonk]] ([[User talk:Platonk|talk]]) 16:28, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> *They will need to be deleted on Commons. [[Commons:Deletion_policy#Deletion_tagging|Here]] is Commons' Deletion policy, it'll take you directly to the &quot;how to&quot; part of that page. ~ ''[[User:ONUnicorn|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0cc&quot;&gt;ONUnicorn&lt;/span&gt;]]''&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:ONUnicorn|Talk]]&amp;#124;[[Special:Contributions/ONUnicorn|Contribs]])&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;[[WP:P&amp;amp;S|problem solving]]&lt;/small&gt; 15:49, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ** {{Reply|ONUnicorn}} I found [[:commons:Commons:Deletion policy#Deletion tagging|the correct link]] (tricky interwikilink). Reading it now. Question: If the batch gets approved in Commons for delete-all, will the closer automatically delete the corresponding files from Wikipedia, too, or will I need to follow up with another bundle to [[WP:IFD]]? [[User:Platonk|Platonk]] ([[User talk:Platonk|talk]]) 16:28, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ***Whoops! Interwikilinks are indeed tricky. As ColinFine said below, they files are not hosted here, there's some magic that lets images hosted on Commons be used on all Wikimedia projects. If you scroll down on the image description page here you'll see something that says, &quot;This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons. Information from its description page there is shown below.&quot; Once it's deleted there, it's deleted everywhere unless they uploaded a second copy locally somewhere. ~ ''[[User:ONUnicorn|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0cc&quot;&gt;ONUnicorn&lt;/span&gt;]]''&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:ONUnicorn|Talk]]&amp;#124;[[Special:Contributions/ONUnicorn|Contribs]])&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;[[WP:P&amp;amp;S|problem solving]]&lt;/small&gt; 17:31, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :::{{U|Platonk}}, the ones I've looked at don't exist in Wikipedia: if you search for them in Wikipedia, you get a local copy of the Commons description page. So there is nothing to delete from Wikipedia. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:49, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::::{{Reply|ColinFine}} So this is not a separate file, but a temporary 'copy' (like a 'mirror')? [[:File:ታሪካዊ መህል ወያነ ፮ ሽድሽተ Historic Center of Woyane.jpg]] [[User:Platonk|Platonk]] ([[User talk:Platonk|talk]]) 17:09, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :::::No, {{U|Platonk}}, it's not a copy at all. The Wikipedia software does not embed media from anywhere external - ''except'' Wikimedia Commons. It can display pictures from there, and if you pick on the picture, or put a &quot;File:&quot; page in the search bar, it will display a Wikipedia page with the details rather than sending you out of Wikipedia into Commons. But none of the information on the image is held in Wikipedia as far as I know, and the image is certainly not copied. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:26, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> {{od}}<br /> Well here goes! I spent the day reading &quot;how&quot; to do it and putting together the argument, evidence, etc. I used [[:Commons:Help:VisualFileChange.js|VisualFileChange.js]] to submit the mass-deletion request at Commons. Looks like I did the process okay. We'll see how it goes. [[User:Platonk|Platonk]] ([[User talk:Platonk|talk]]) 05:20, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Barilla new logo ==<br /> <br /> In the main page ( there is new Barilla logo. How to extract from the page? --[[Special:Contributions/2001:B07:6442:8903:1D45:E702:F5AE:3FE6|2001:B07:6442:8903:1D45:E702:F5AE:3FE6]] ([[User talk:2001:B07:6442:8903:1D45:E702:F5AE:3FE6|talk]]) 11:23, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Hi, the article [[Barilla (company)]] covers the entire Barilla group, and not just the consumer pasta brand &quot;Barilla&quot;. Therefore the article uses the Barilla Group logo which can be found also on their website – [[User:Njd-de|NJD-DE]] ([[User talk:Njd-de|talk]]) 11:46, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::The IP is apparently on a mission to purge all Wikipedia languages of the company logo, also in articles which showed both the company logo and pasta brand logo.[;diff=141087821&amp;oldid=141079318] I have reverted them here [;diff=1066902554&amp;oldid=1066870948] but not edited other wikis. It isn't even their only pasta logo but one of many at [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 18:18, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == undo an edit ==<br /> <br /> I attempted to add a citation to the page &quot;Richard Arbib&quot;<br /> I only managed to mess it up.<br /> can someone undo my edits dated January 2022 for me.<br /> thanks<br /> [[Special:Contributions/|]] ([[User talk:|talk]]) 16:32, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> {{done}} --[[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 16:35, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Accessing a deleted article ==<br /> <br /> Suppose I recall something that interested me in an article that has recently been deleted. Is there a way I can access that article and/or ots history notwithstanding? <br /> <br /> Thanks. &lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autosigned&quot; style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;—&amp;nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Christofurio|Christofurio]] ([[User talk:Christofurio#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Christofurio|contribs]]) 20:08, 20 January 2022 (UTC)&lt;/span&gt;<br /> :{{ping|Christofurio}} Hi there! Once an article has been deleted, user cannot view the article or its history (but admins can). You might be able to find a [[Wikipedia mirror]] site that still has a copy of the article. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 20:17, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :@[[User:Christofurio|Christofurio]] You can try [[WP:REFUND]]. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 20:45, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :{{u|Christofurio}} You might also try [[Deletionpedia]].--[[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|&lt;sup&gt;feed me&lt;/sup&gt;]] 09:44, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::{{u|Christofurio}} I seem to remember that there was an off-wiki website that archived deleted Wikipedia articles. Anyone know its name?--[[User:Quisqualis|Quisqualis]] ([[User talk:Quisqualis|talk]]) 23:40, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Please stop my automated monthly deductions. ==<br /> <br /> Please stop my automatic monthly donation. I did not make this selection. I will continue to make donation in the future. But I need to make them at my timing.. (Redacted). <br /> <br /> Luther Burton &lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autosigned&quot; style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;—&amp;nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Lutherburton|Lutherburton]] ([[User talk:Lutherburton#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lutherburton|contribs]]) 21:43, 20 January 2022 (UTC)&lt;/span&gt; &lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&gt;<br /> :{{u|Lutherburton}} We editors have nothing to do with the donation process. Please email donate at Wikimedia dot org with any inquiries about donations. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 21:49, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::{{ping|Lutherburton}} See more at [[:donate:Cancel or change recurring giving]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 22:28, 20 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> = January 21 =<br /> <br /> == WP:Toolong ==<br /> <br /> Why are articles such as [[Donald Trump]] allowed to have over 100kB...even though [[Wikipedia:Article size]] states articles over 100,000 characters should, &quot;Almost certainly should be divided.&quot; [[User:Ak-eater06|'''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A2CEC2&quot;&gt;Ak-eater06&lt;/span&gt;''']] ([[User talk:Ak-eater06#top|talk]]) 05:16, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :Hello, {{u|Ak-eater06}}. As should be obvious, it is much more difficult to gain consensus for major changes at an article like [[Donald Trump]] than at less contentious and lower visibility articles. It is easier to gain agreement to add a little bit of well-referenced content than to split off a major block of well-referenced content. The day will come when Trump is no longer a factor in day-to-day politics in the U.S., and maybe a &quot;slimming&quot; of that article will become possible at that time. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 05:27, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::If you take a look at [[Special:LongPages]], you will see that there are currently 30 articles that are longer than [[Donald Trump]]. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 05:47, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :::A huge amount about Donald Trump is already split out to other articles with a summary section in the main article per [[Wikipedia:Summary style]]. The guideline about 100 kB is from 2007 when Internet connections were slower and some browsers had technical limitations. Many editors consider it obsolete, or would ignore it if they knew about it. I don't expect Donald Trump to ever go below 100 kB. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 06:05, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::::[[User:PrimeHunter]] source for the 2007 claim? (not that I doubt you). [[User:Ak-eater06|'''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A2CEC2&quot;&gt;Ak-eater06&lt;/span&gt;''']] ([[User talk:Ak-eater06#top|talk]]) 06:50, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :::::[;diff=110124825&amp;oldid=109606995 Diff]. See also [[Wikipedia talk:Article size#Documentation of the history of WP:SIZERULE]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 06:57, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::::[[User:PrimeHunter]] Thanks. My next question is why haven't these restrictions been removed (especially with our advanced technology fifteen years later). [[User:Ak-eater06|'''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A2CEC2&quot;&gt;Ak-eater06&lt;/span&gt;''']] ([[User talk:Ak-eater06#top|talk]]) 07:37, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::As an aside, I wouldn't say that size ruling is obsolete. We now have a lot of mobile connections. I don't know about you, but loading that article from my phone is a bit of a mission sometimes! Best Wishes, '''[[User:Lee Vilenski|&lt;span style=&quot;color:green&quot;&gt;Lee Vilenski&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:Lee Vilenski|talk]] • [[Special:Contribs/Lee Vilenski|contribs]])&lt;/sup&gt;''' 09:50, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::Not to mention that, aside from any technical limitations that may have inspired the rule, which may or may not be considerations now, there is the fact that the target audience of our articles are humans with limited attention spans. Our articles are not books, they should be able to be read in a single sitting. I think if at article is so long that it would take the average reader more than an hour to read, it's too long. Last time I read through the Donald Trump article, it took just about an hour. ~ ''[[User:ONUnicorn|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0cc&quot;&gt;ONUnicorn&lt;/span&gt;]]''&lt;sup&gt;([[User talk:ONUnicorn|Talk]]&amp;#124;[[Special:Contributions/ONUnicorn|Contribs]])&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;[[WP:P&amp;amp;S|problem solving]]&lt;/small&gt; 17:34, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == If someone cites a paywall source, does it count as an eligible citation? Or should it be removed? ==<br /> <br /> [[User:Ak-eater06|'''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A2CEC2&quot;&gt;Ak-eater06&lt;/span&gt;''']] ([[User talk:Ak-eater06#top|talk]]) 07:34, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :See [[WP:PAYWALL]]. —&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: serif&quot;&gt;'''''[[User:Wasell|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #0a0&quot;&gt;Wasell&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:Wasell|(&lt;span style=&quot;color: #e66&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;)]]&lt;/sup&gt;'''''&lt;/span&gt; 08:53, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It's really no different than an offline citation of a book. Just because you can't access it via the internet doesn't invalidate it. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 10:03, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Fair use image to other language Wikipedia ==<br /> <br /> If a picture is fair-use here, what is the process of using that on other language Wikipedia? Would I need to reupload it on the other Wiki? Or, there is nothing can be done about it? &lt;span&gt;[[User:Lightbluerain|&lt;span style='color:#ADD8E6'&gt;'''Lightbluerain'''&lt;/span&gt;❄]] ([[User talk:Lightbluerain|Talk💬]] [[Special:Contributions/Lightbluerain|Contribs✏️]])&lt;/span&gt; 12:13, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :You would have to manually upload it to another Wiki. Although first, you would need to check that language Wikipedia's rules on fair use content (some language wikis don't allow any non-free images for example), to make sure it could be used there. [[User:Joseph2302|&lt;b style=&quot;color:#0033ab&quot;&gt;Joseph&lt;/b&gt;]][[User talk:Joseph2302|&lt;b style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;2302&lt;/b&gt;]] ([[User talk:Joseph2302|talk]]) 12:20, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::Thanks for the quick response. &lt;span&gt;[[User:Lightbluerain|&lt;span style='color:#ADD8E6'&gt;'''Lightbluerain'''&lt;/span&gt;❄]] ([[User talk:Lightbluerain|Talk💬]] [[Special:Contributions/Lightbluerain|Contribs✏️]])&lt;/span&gt; 12:32, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Name Disputed tag? ==<br /> <br /> What would be the appropriate template tag for the *name* of the person being disputed. Several IP editors have attempted to change the name of Alpha Kappa Alpha founder [[Ethel Hedgeman Lyle]] to Ethyl Hedgemon Lyle over the last week. I'm not sure they are wrong (Alpha Kappa Alpha *itself* has changed the name on their website), but would like to direct them to the talk page rather than having to protect the website. &quot;Disputed&quot; and &quot;Disputed Section&quot; both seem wrong. &lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autosigned&quot; style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;—&amp;nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Naraht|Naraht]] ([[User talk:Naraht#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Naraht|contribs]]) 14:06, 21 January 2022 (UTC)&lt;/span&gt;<br /> :At first glance, {{tl|Disputed inline}} would seem appropriate. --[[User:Chatul|Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul]] ([[User talk:Chatul|talk]]) 15:19, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Reticon Company: ==<br /> <br /> I was a R&amp;D manufacturing engineer with GM for 40 years. I bought Reticon chips for measuring machines. We bought a machine from Diffracto (Canada) that could measure jet engine part diameters to +/- 12 microinches +/- 3 sigma. It was obvious at the time that once the big boys saw what Reticon was doing they would bury them like IBM did all those small microcomputer companies that had better machines. Reticon was a true pioneer in digital camera development. You know what a pioneer is: a guy lying face down in the dirt with arrows in his back.<br /> David Monnier Allison Div, GM 1964-2005 (lasers, holography, microcomputers, robotics, PLCs, computer vision, special machines)16:21, 21 January 2022 (UTC)~~ &lt;!-- Template:Unsigned IP --&gt;&lt;small class=&quot;autosigned&quot;&gt;—&amp;nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/|]] ([[User talk:|talk]]) &lt;/small&gt; &lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&gt;<br /> :Why are you posting this here? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:41, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Hello, IP user. We have an article [[Reticon]], and you are welcome to add to it, but only information for which you have a [[WP:RS|reliable published source]]: personal recollection and knowledge is regarded as [[WP:original research|original research]], and not acceptable as a source anywhere in Wikipedia. <br /> :I wonder if you have looked at that article, and are reacting to the notice at the top that it may not meet Wikipedia's guidelines for notability and may get deleted. That notice has been there for more than ten years (though now you have drawn people's attention to it, somebody might pay attention to it!) If that is your point, then I'm afraid that no amount of personal recollection, or assertions of the company's importance, is relevant. What is needed to bring that article up to the basic minimal requirements of Wikipedia is several citations to reliable published sources, wholly independent of the company, which cover it in some depth. It is possible that the New York Times article does so (it requires a subscription to look at it); but judging from the title, I suspect that its content is peripheral to an article about Reticon.<br /> :If you have such sources (they don't need to be online, but they must not be written or published by Reticon or its associates, or based on press releases from them) then you're welcome to add citation to them - if you're not sure how to cite a source in an article, post on the talk page [[Talk:Reticon]], giving bibliographic information about the sources (like author, date, title, publication, page number). --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:26, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Many pages, identical error, need to correct in bulk ==<br /> <br /> In 2010, 250 pages were generated on Wikipedia relating to dams in India. lines 1 to 252, less a few disambiguation pages, links them. All I have checked so far have transferred cubic volumes from referenced source material to the article incorrectly, changing units of 1000 cubic meters into cubic kilometers. The dams therefore appear in the articles to be larger than they are in fact.<br /> <br /> Where on Wikipedia can I connect with a bulk correction team who know how to employ macros across many pages? [[User:Cb6|JohnHarris]] ([[User talk:Cb6|talk]]) 17:25, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :Hello, {{U|Cb6|John}}. That sounds like the sort of thing one of the bots could do. Please look at [[WP:Bot requests]]. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:28, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Thank you @ColinFine, I'll move that way. [[User:Cb6|JohnHarris]] ([[User talk:Cb6|talk]]) 17:44, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Non-english growth team program mentee ==<br /> <br /> Hello! I've signed up as a mentor for the &quot;Growth Team features&quot; and I noticed that one of my mentees is a non-english user. Their username isn't in English and their only edit so far is also not in English. I'm wondering if there's a way I can unclaim a mentee as I am only able to speak and understand English, so having a mentee that doesn't speak English doesn't work all that well. ― [[User:Blaze Wolf|&lt;b style=&quot;background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;&quot;&gt;Blaze&amp;nbsp;Wolf&lt;/b&gt;]][[User talk:Blaze Wolf|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]]&lt;sub title=&quot;Discord Username&quot; style=&quot;margin-left:-22q;&quot;&gt;Blaze&amp;nbsp;Wolf#6545&lt;/sub&gt; 17:57, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The user in question appears to no longer be my mentee. DOn't know if someone else did something or if something I did caused it but thanks. ― [[User:Blaze Wolf|&lt;b style=&quot;background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;&quot;&gt;Blaze&amp;nbsp;Wolf&lt;/b&gt;]][[User talk:Blaze Wolf|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]]&lt;sub title=&quot;Discord Username&quot; style=&quot;margin-left:-22q;&quot;&gt;Blaze&amp;nbsp;Wolf#6545&lt;/sub&gt; 18:21, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Move Muscogee (Creek) Nation to Muscogee Nation ==<br /> <br /> New name since 2021 needs to be renamed to make it simplified and it's the new name for our tribal nation &lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autosigned&quot; style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;—&amp;nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Qwv|Qwv]] ([[User talk:Qwv#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Qwv|contribs]]) 19:43, 21 January 2022 (UTC)&lt;/span&gt; &lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&gt;<br /> <br /> :I can't do it myself, as [[Muscogee Nation]] is &quot;occupied&quot; (with two edits), so I've initiated a request to move the page; it should show up at [[WP:Requested moves#January 22, 2022]] within half an hour. You will be able to comment there. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 02:32, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Highest grossing tamil movies list ==<br /> <br /> You people included <br /> 1.Bahubali the beginning<br /> 2.bahubali the conclusion<br /> 3.saaho<br /> In highest grossing tamil movies list these three are not tamil movies they are telugu movies if you people say that it is a pan Indian movie then you should include it in other languages list as well<br /> Kindly remove these three movies from tamil movies list &lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autosigned&quot; style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;—&amp;nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Bharath Ramasamy|Bharath Ramasamy]] ([[User talk:Bharath Ramasamy#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bharath Ramasamy|contribs]]) 21:16, 21 January 2022 (UTC)&lt;/span&gt; &lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&gt;<br /> <br /> :No, {{U|Bharath Ramasamy}}, &quot;we people&quot; didn't. Probably almost all the people reading this help page, like me, have never even looked at that list article before, never mind edited it. If you want to engage with people who do take an interest in that article, the place to make your suggestion is the talk page of that article, [[Talk:List of highest-grossing Tamil films]], or perhaps at [[WT:WikiProject Film]]. I note that the articles about the three films you mention all say that they were filmed simultaneously in Tamil and Telugu, and in the case of [[Saaho]], in Hindi as well. If you don't think they belong in the Tamil list, it is up to you to ''argue the case'' and persuade other editors to agree with you. The three films are also in [[List of highest-grossing Telugu films]]. Saaho is not in the Hindi section of [[List of highest-grossing Indian films]] but it appears from the numbers that it does not rank in the top ten of those anyway. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 22:59, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :{{U|Bharath Ramasamy}}, there are sources for both ''Bahubali'' films in the list that state they are Tamil films. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 02:39, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Usage of Wikipedia text in commercial game ==<br /> <br /> I would like to have tooltips in a commercial video game that use text from various Wikipedia pages. There is no space for attribution and no ability for hyperlinks. I can include attribution in a dedicated credits page but I still can't include hyperlinks. I would need about 500 unique tooltips. Do I have any options here or is this unreasonable?[[User:JohnWik99|JohnWik99]] ([[User talk:JohnWik99|talk]]) 22:18, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Hello, {{U|JohnWIk99}}. Thank you for taking the trouble to check how to attribute. It seems to me that a credits page with the URL would be adequate, even if that URL is not a clickable link. [[WP:Reusing Wikipedia content]] says {{tq|To re-distribute a text page in any form, provide credit to the authors either by including a) a [[hyperlink]] (where possible) or [[URL]] to the page or pages you are re-using, b) a hyperlink (where possible) or URL to an alternative, stable online copy which is freely accessible, which conforms with the license, and which provides credit to the authors in a manner equivalent to the credit given on this website, or c) a list of all authors}}. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 23:04, 21 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> = January 22 =<br /> <br /> == Changing password or email ==<br /> <br /> If i change my password or email, will my contributions reset to 0 and all the rights that i have will dissapear? [[User:Vitaium|Vitaium]] ([[User talk:Vitaium|talk]]) 00:00, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :{{ping|Vitaium}} No, nothing will change. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 00:01, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::{{ping|Vitaium}} If you never want to use your account again, you can change your password to something you can't remember. After that, you can start a brand new account, and start building a new contribution history and gaining user rights. OR you can change the user name of your account, if you want to retain your contribution history and rights. To change your user name, see [[Wikipedia:Changing username]].--[[User:Quisqualis|Quisqualis]] ([[User talk:Quisqualis|talk]]) 23:24, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == How to use wikipedia ==<br /> <br /> I don't know how to use wikipedia and search some information &lt;!-- Template:Unsigned IP --&gt;&lt;small class=&quot;autosigned&quot;&gt;—&amp;nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2A03:2880:32FF:B:0:0:FACE:B00C|2A03:2880:32FF:B:0:0:FACE:B00C]] ([[User talk:2A03:2880:32FF:B:0:0:FACE:B00C#top|talk]]) 02:17, 22 January 2022 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt; &lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&gt;<br /> :Hi there! To use Wikipedia for find some information, you can use the search bar at the top right of any page. Or go to and use the big search bar there. For more information, see [[Help:Contents]]. Enjoy! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 02:38, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::With the skin changes the search field may either be at the centre top of a page or on the left-hand side of the sticky header. Just click on the [[file:OOjs UI icon search.svg]] icon and start typing. —[[User:Tenryuu|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#556B2F&quot;&gt;Tenryuu&amp;nbsp;🐲&lt;/span&gt;]]&amp;nbsp;(&amp;nbsp;[[User talk:Tenryuu|💬]]&amp;nbsp;•&amp;nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Tenryuu|📝]]&amp;nbsp;) 06:51, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == How can you add a portlet menu like Twinkle's? ==<br /> <br /> RT. I can't find anything on [[Help:Customizing_toolbars]]. Thanks. --[[User:魔琴|魔琴 (Zauber Violino)]] ([[User talk:魔琴|talk]]) 07:16, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :{{re|魔琴}} Yes, although it requires some complex skin-dependent javascript code. See [[MediaWiki:Gadget-Twinkle.js#L-250]] and following for how twinkle does this. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 09:22, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::{{ping|Victor Schmidt}} Is the script dependent on something? I got a &quot;too many errors&quot; warning when I tried to fork it. --[[User:魔琴|魔琴 (Zauber Violino)]] ([[User talk:魔琴|talk]]) 12:22, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :::{{re|魔琴}} that particular function (Twinkle.addPortlet()) is only dependant on jQuery, though the overal [[MediaWiki:Gadget-Twinkle.js|Gadget-Twinle]] is dependant upon a ton of other stuff as visible on [[MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition]], some of which are the menu entry submodules. Amongst others:<br /> * [[MediaWiki:Gadget-morebits.js]]<br /> * [[MediaWiki:Gadget-select2.js]]<br /> * mediawiki.language<br /> * mediawiki.api<br /> :Note that in particular the subgadgets might have dependencies too. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 12:44, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::::The whole thing is also visible (slightly improved) on [[Special:Gadgets]], though that one includes all submodules. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 12:46, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Biology ==<br /> <br /> Reproduction system &lt;!-- Template:Unsigned IP --&gt;&lt;small class=&quot;autosigned&quot;&gt;—&amp;nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/|]] ([[User talk:|talk]]) 07:17, 22 January 2022 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt; &lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&gt;<br /> :Dear IP editor, this is the Help desk where you can ask questions about how to edit Wikipedia articles. Did you have a question?--[[User:Gronk Oz|Gronk Oz]] ([[User talk:Gronk Oz|talk]]) 09:32, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :[[Reproductive system]] may be what the OP is looking for. {The poster formerly known as} [[Special:Contributions/|]] ([[User talk:|talk]]) 17:39, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == replacing an article with a fuller, longer one ==<br /> <br /> Is one permitted to delete an existing article and replace it with another fuller article, written by someone else? &lt;!-- Template:Unsigned IP --&gt;&lt;small class=&quot;autosigned&quot;&gt;—&amp;nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2A02:C7F:44F1:4A00:9CE3:68AA:7E2A:69C|2A02:C7F:44F1:4A00:9CE3:68AA:7E2A:69C]] ([[User talk:2A02:C7F:44F1:4A00:9CE3:68AA:7E2A:69C#top|talk]]) 09:46, 22 January 2022 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt; &lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&gt;<br /> <br /> :It's hard to say without specifics, but it doesn't sound like a good idea. One obvious problem would be copyright, as all text on Wikipedia has to be free to redistribute. The other problem is [[WP:CONSENSUS]]. This is built up over a period of time and should not be overridden. If you want to propose major changes to an article, it is best to discuss them on the article's talk page first.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|&lt;span style=&quot;background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps&quot;&gt;♦Ian&lt;span style=&quot;background:#99c&quot;&gt;Ma&lt;span style=&quot;background:#aad&quot;&gt;c&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;M♦&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]&lt;/sup&gt;''''' 09:57, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::It would help us to give a better answer if we knew the article involved; there are circumstances where that might be okay and ones where it might be not okay. I assume with &quot;replace it by another, fuller article written by someone else&quot; you mean that you would be the author. 10:01, 22 January 2022 (UTC)&lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autosigned&quot; style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;—&amp;nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/331dot|contribs]]) &lt;/span&gt;<br /> ::I suggest that in most circumstances it is better to modify the existing article incrementally with (well-referenced) additions, corrections and rearrangements. Consensus can then be established for each step change, rather than making one giant leap which might be hard for other interested editors to swallow in one gulp. Rome was not rebuilt in a day. {The poster formerly known as} [[Special:Contributions/|]] ([[User talk:|talk]]) 17:43, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :::[[Special:Contributions/2A02:C7F:44F1:4A00:9CE3:68AA:7E2A:69C|2A02:C7F:44F1:4A00:9CE3:68AA:7E2A:69C]], assuming you mean that you want to entirely rewrite a Wikipedia article, you will want to bring it up on the article's Talk page. Be sure to state the deficiencies of the article, as well as the sources, or types of sources, you intend to base your new article on. It is polite to ask if any other editors might want to pitch in with suggestions for the new article. If anyone becomes upset at your offer, and no other editors come to your defense, bring the situation up at the [[WP:TH|Teahouse]] before proceeding. --[[User:Quisqualis|Quisqualis]] ([[User talk:Quisqualis|talk]]) 22:22, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == RFC closing question ==<br /> <br /> Hello I have a question about RFC procedure at [[Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory]]. An RFC is currently running about a passage in the article here: [[Talk:Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory#RfC:_Original_research_issue?]] opened by {{u|RaiderAspect}}. <br /> <br /> RaiderAspect has removed the passage in question saying that &quot;consensus has been reached&quot; despite the RFC having not been formally closed. I reinstaded the contested text because the RFC is still ongoing (and Raider has reverted me again). What is the correct way forward here? I was under the impression that while an RFC is running, it should not be enforced (and certainly not by the person who opened the RFC). Thanks [[User:Mvbaron|Mvbaron]] ([[User talk:Mvbaron|talk]]) 12:00, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :For the record, my understanding is that this is a procedural dispute rather than a content dispute; all of the RfC participants, including {{u|Mvbaron}}, have agreed that the text in question fails verification. I would not have made these edits if anyone had defended the passage, or if the RfC hadn't already been fairly well-attended. --[[User:RaiderAspect|RaiderAspect]] ([[User talk:RaiderAspect|talk]]) 12:47, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::I agree it is procedural, but isn't the correct way to wait for an (uninvolved) closer of the RFC? or at least propose a close at the RFC and then proceed to close? Right now, the RFC is still ongoing but the text in question is already removed. [[User:Mvbaron|Mvbaron]] ([[User talk:Mvbaron|talk]]) 12:55, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :The content in question, and any other attempt to suggest that Feldman is making an 'argument' about etymology, does not have a SNOWball's chance in Hell of surviving the RfC. [[User:Tewdar|&lt;span style='font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#cfb53b;background-color:#000000;'&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;Tewdar&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]([[User talk:Tewdar|talk]]) 13:20, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::RfC is now closed. [[User:Tewdar|&lt;span style='font-family:&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#cfb53b;background-color:#000000;'&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;Tewdar&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]([[User talk:Tewdar|talk]]) 13:42, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :::omg, you can't close it either. You're involved. [[User:Mvbaron|Mvbaron]] ([[User talk:Mvbaron|talk]]) 13:52, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> I proposed a move to close at the RFC per [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment#Ending_RfCs]]: &quot;The RfC participants can agree to end it at any time, and one of them can remove the rfc template.&quot;--[[User:Mvbaron|Mvbaron]] ([[User talk:Mvbaron|talk]]) 14:12, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> '''Comment''' - RFC has been closed by an uninvolved editor. and the policy-discussion has been moved here: [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#RFC_involved_closures]] --[[User:Mvbaron|Mvbaron]] ([[User talk:Mvbaron|talk]]) 14:42, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Why are you being bought by big pharma ? ==<br /> <br /> I will not donate another cent and now consider you useless source of information. &lt;!-- Template:Unsigned IP --&gt;&lt;small class=&quot;autosigned&quot;&gt;—&amp;nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/|]] ([[User talk:|talk]]) 13:50, 22 January 2022 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt; &lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&gt;<br /> :{{cn}} What are your sources for this extraordinary assertion? --[[User:Orangemike|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F80&quot;&gt;Orange Mike&lt;/span&gt;]] &amp;#124; [[User talk:Orangemike|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FA0&quot;&gt;Talk&lt;/span&gt;]] 14:26, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::We are not being bought by big pharma, we don't allow advertising, and editors are volunteers who couldn't be controlled if the nonprofit [[Wikimedia Foundation]] which runs Wikipedia was paid off by big pharma. In case you think we are unfair to alternative medicine, see [[Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine)]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 15:33, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :::We're being bought by Big Pharma? Then where is my payment? I've always wanted a Lamborghini, and maybe I can buy one when my money from Big Pharma comes in!--[[User:Gronk Oz|Gronk Oz]] ([[User talk:Gronk Oz|talk]]) 15:47, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :[[WP:DENY|Do not respond to posts that are intentionally worded to seek a reaction instead of a dialogue]]. Just revert it off. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|&lt;i style=&quot;color: #1E90FF;&quot;&gt;A little blue Bori&lt;/i&gt;]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #228B22&quot;&gt;v^_^v&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;sup&gt;&lt;small&gt;[[Special:Contributions/Jéské Couriano|Jéské Couriano]]&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; 20:38, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :::Hello anonymous editor. Wikipedia's content standards do not take the Wikimedia Foundation's financial needs into consideration. At all. And thank you for your previous generosity.--[[User:Quisqualis|Quisqualis]] ([[User talk:Quisqualis|talk]]) 22:05, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == RfC with no concensus ==<br /> <br /> About 30 days ago, I opened a RfC but no one has answered it. What can I do to find a consensus? [[User:Dr Salvus|&lt;b style=&quot;font-family: Verdana; color: #6633FF;&quot;&gt;Dr&lt;/b&gt;]] [[User talk:Dr Salvus|&lt;b style=&quot;font-family: Verdana; color: #6633FF;&quot;&gt;Salvus&lt;/b&gt;]] 15:44, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :{{u|Dr Salvus}} It would help if you linked to the discussion. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:56, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::{{u|331dot}}, [[WT:FOOTY#Template:X team squad|Here]]'s the discussion. [[User:Dr Salvus|&lt;b style=&quot;font-family: Verdana; color: #6633FF;&quot;&gt;Dr&lt;/b&gt;]] [[User talk:Dr Salvus|&lt;b style=&quot;font-family: Verdana; color: #6633FF;&quot;&gt;Salvus&lt;/b&gt;]] 16:04, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :::{{u|Dr Salvus}} You started a talk page discussion, but it is not marked as a formal [[WP:RFC|Request for Comment]](RFC, which is a specific thing). This is why no one else has replied. Please read the instructions at that link for information on how to start a formal RFC. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:09, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Bias on Wikipedia ==<br /> <br /> I would like to be directed to the correct page on where to go if I have concerns that the bias on Wikipedia leans towards a liberal side rather than addressing both liberal and conservative. Thanks, [[User:Interstellarity|Interstellarity]] ([[User talk:Interstellarity|talk]]) 16:32, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :{{re| Interstellarity}} this comes up a lot, but the short answer is content is based on the sources that are used. Perhaps start a discussion at [[Wikipedia talk:Systemic bias]]. [[User:Timtempleton|&lt;b style=&quot;color:#7F007F&quot;&gt;TimTempleton&lt;/b&gt;]] [[User talk:Timtempleton|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#800080&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/sup&gt;]] [[Special:Contributions/Timtempleton|&lt;sup style=&quot;color:#7F007F&quot;&gt;(cont)&lt;/sup&gt;]] 16:35, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :{{u|Interstellarity}} (ec) Wikipedia does not claim to be free of bias. Any bias in sources will be reflected in Wikipedia. Sources are presented to readers so they can evaluate and judge them for themselves as to bias and other factors. Wikipedia does not provide equal time to all sides of an issue irrespective of how sources cover it- coverage of an issue depends on the sources. See [[WP:FALSEBALANCE]]. <br /> :Wikipedia does claim to have a [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]] in terms of how information is presented- but again, this is different than claiming to be unbiased. If you have a concern that a partcular article does not present the given sources neutrally, or that the sources are not accurately summarized, please discuss that on the associated talk page. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:36, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::Thanks everyone. That helps a lot. [[User:Interstellarity|Interstellarity]] ([[User talk:Interstellarity|talk]]) 17:26, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :::It has been observed ([[Stephen Colbert at the 2006 White House Correspondents' Dinner|in a satirical context]]) that &quot;Reality has a well-known liberal bias&quot;. {The poster formerly known as} [[Special:Contributions/|]] ([[User talk:|talk]]) 17:49, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :{{re| Interstellarity}} another point: the English Wikipedia has editors from all English-speaking countries and from other countries. Many non-US people consider the US to be fairly far to the right, Even US &quot;liberal&quot; positions seem to be to the right of center. US liberals are still fighting for &quot;progressive&quot; things that are taken for granted in many other places, such as universal health care, free education, paid maternity/paternity leave, and free child care. -[[User:Arch dude|Arch dude]] ([[User talk:Arch dude|talk]]) 18:13, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What happens if one is proposing a merger but doesn't get any reply? ==<br /> <br /> [[User:Ak-eater06|'''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A2CEC2&quot;&gt;Ak-eater06&lt;/span&gt;''']] ([[User talk:Ak-eater06#top|talk]]) 19:43, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :{{ping|Ak-eater06}} Hi there! In general, I suggest reviewing the guidance at [[Wikipedia:Proposed article mergers]]. If you provide the articles in question, we can provide more detailed suggestions. Hope this helps, and happy editing! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 20:28, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :[[User:GoingBatty]] I'm talking about this: [[Talk:Domestic policy of the Stephen Harper government#Merger proposal]]. [[User:Ak-eater06|'''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A2CEC2&quot;&gt;Ak-eater06&lt;/span&gt;''']] ([[User talk:Ak-eater06#top|talk]]) 20:32, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::{{ping|Ak-eater06}} That's helpful - thank you! It's been less than 24 hours. Responses may take several days. Looking at [[Wikipedia:Proposed article mergers#How to propose a merger]], you've done step 1. Next, you could do step 2 and determine if step 3 is needed. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 20:50, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == This has no banned symbol but is tagged as such ==<br /> <br /> this file claims it contains nazi imagery, this is not corret. can i simply remove the category?<br /> &lt;!-- Template:Unsigned --&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autosigned&quot; style=&quot;font-size:85%;&quot;&gt;—&amp;nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Bindestriche|Bindestriche]] ([[User talk:Bindestriche#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bindestriche|contribs]]) 19:49, 22 January 2022 (UTC)&lt;/span&gt; &lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&gt;<br /> :{{ping|Bindestriche}} I don't understand why the &quot;Summary&quot; description has 30+ other images, some of which contain the Nazi swastika. I suggest you ask at the Commons help desk: [[:commons:Commons:Help desk]]. Good luck! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 20:24, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Citation template for a patent ==<br /> <br /> I'm trying to cite a patent (it's something I have never tried before), and, while my citation looks OK, it is sitting within the text of the [[Fibroblast_growth_factor_receptor_1#FGFR_inhibitors|article]], rather than in the references section. I followed the example [[Citation_templates#Examples|here]]. What went wrong?--[[User:Quisqualis|Quisqualis]] ([[User talk:Quisqualis|talk]]) 21:57, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :{{ping|Quisqualis}} It was missing the {{tag|ref}} tags, which I added in {{diff2|1067325304|this edit}}. Hope this is what you were looking for, and thanks for improving the article! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 22:14, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::Thanks, [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]]. After spending some time on the intricacies, I forgot the basic format!--[[User:Quisqualis|Quisqualis]] ([[User talk:Quisqualis|talk]]) 22:29, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Usage of &quot;he&quot; rather than &quot;his government&quot; in politician articles ==<br /> <br /> For example, on [[Franklin D. Roosevelt]], there are many parts that say, &quot;he did this, he did that&quot; (like, &quot;He also instituted major regulatory reforms related to finance, communications, and labor, and presided over the end of Prohibition.&quot;). But isn't it supposed to be &quot;his government&quot; as it's realistally impossible for him to have done this alone. Or is there some rule on Wiki I'm not aware about? [[User:Ak-eater06|'''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A2CEC2&quot;&gt;Ak-eater06&lt;/span&gt;''']] ([[User talk:Ak-eater06#top|talk]]) 22:18, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> : [[User:Ak-eater06|Ak-eater06]], it's standard practice nearly everywhere, including on Wikipedia.--[[User:Quisqualis|Quisqualis]] ([[User talk:Quisqualis|talk]]) 22:32, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::{{ping|Ak-eater06}} Standard practice by politicians, press, and people in general to credit the politicians for all the good things that happened, and criticize the politicians for all the bad things that happened, regardless of how the politicians themselves actually influenced the outcome. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 22:57, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::{{ping|Ak-eater06}}To clarify, if you are concerned that, due to such language, a certain article on Wikipedia isn't neutral, you can compare it to similar articles on WP and note whether it preferentially and excessively uses the style you describe. Note that,,as an encyclopedia striving for brevity, WP may use such language as a sort of shorthand, particularly in the lead sections of biographies, which summarize the rest of the article.<br /> <br /> :::Roosevelt, for example, was a popular president; many sources give him credit for the accomplishments of his administration. The sources used for the article may take a similar approach. Wikipedia aims for stylistic consistency among articles, provided the consistency doesn't come at the expense of accurately restating what the sources say.--[[User:Quisqualis|Quisqualis]] ([[User talk:Quisqualis|talk]]) 02:43, 23 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Robert Hugh Miller ==<br /> <br /> Yesterday I edited the page on Robert Hugh Miller (my great-grandfather). His year of birth was previously shown as 1826, which may have been based on some biographical encyclopedias. However, there is a photograph of his tombstone on Find-a-Grave, showing his year of birth as 1828. That seems to me a more certain datum. My question has to do with how to properly show the reference source on this. Wm. J Pease.[[User:William J. Pease|William J. Pease]] ([[User talk:William J. Pease|talk]]) 22:39, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :{{ping|William J. Pease}} Hi there! Since you have a [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]], you should not be editing articles about people related to you. I reverted your edit to [[Robert Hugh Miller]] based on the date mentioned in reference #2. (You also didn't change the year everywhere in the article.) I suggest you post on the article's talk page [[Talk:Robert Hugh Miller]] with the {{tl|edit request}} template, a link to the Find a Grave page, and any other reliable published sources you have about his birth year. Or, you may use the [[Wikipedia:Edit Request Wizard]]. Hope this helps, and happy editing! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 23:06, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :{{ping|William J. Pease}} Note that according to [[WP:RSP]], Find-a-Grave contains user-generated content and is therefore considered unreliable on Wikipedia. You should find a better source for the change that you wish to propose. [[User:CodeTalker|CodeTalker]] ([[User talk:CodeTalker|talk]]) 23:38, 22 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::{{ping|CodeTalker}} Well, I don't know how much difference it makes, but he actually said it was a photograph of a tombstone ON Find a Grave. So in this case, the &quot;user generated content&quot; is a reproduction of what might be seen as a primary source. (Although, I think a tombstone, surprisingly, might not be the most reliable of primary sources.) [[User:AzseicsoK|Uporządnicki]] ([[User talk:AzseicsoK|talk]]) 02:08, 23 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :::Yes, a photograph of a tombstone is certainly a primary source, but not a particularly strong one, because there's no guarantee that the grave is actually of the subject person and not another with the same name. &quot;Robert Hugh Miller&quot; is not an uncommon name -- a quick Google search reveals a number of different people, some living and some deceased, with that name. [[User:CodeTalker|CodeTalker]] ([[User talk:CodeTalker|talk]]) 02:16, 23 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::::Well, my own thought was this: My father marked his own father's grave with the date of birth my father had been told. But for years, my father suspected that his father was a few years older than my father had been led to believe. His father was born in Poland (as my own father was), years before two world wars marched back and forth through that country. The point, of course, is that people who don't die tragically young are typically buried by survivors who weren't around when they were born. So unless they have the official documents, they're going on what they personally have been told. [[User:AzseicsoK|Uporządnicki]] ([[User talk:AzseicsoK|talk]]) 02:36, 23 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :::::Yes, that's a good point. There are a number of reasons why information inscribed on a tombstone might not be accurate, especially something as long before the inscription is made as the birth date. [[User:CodeTalker|CodeTalker]] ([[User talk:CodeTalker|talk]]) 04:09, 23 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::::::It also strikes me that 1826/8 is a surprisingly early date (though not of course impossible) for the birth of a great-grandfather of someone active today. It would apply, for example, if the OP's grandparent, parent and himself were all born when their parents were ''on average'' about 40 (an unusual sequence), and he himself were 74. One hopes that the OP has other corroboration, such as preserved family records, for this being the correct Robert Hugh Miller. {The poster formerly known as} [[Special:Contributions/|]] ([[User talk:|talk]]) 04:25, 23 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> = January 23 =<br /> <br /> == Any way to see an article that's been deleted? ==<br /> <br /> Is there any way to see an article that was deleted in 2010? I wouldn't expect to be able to find something that slandered a person or gave out information that should be private, nor would I expect to find something that was a flagrant violation of Copyright. But this was none of those. It was &quot;lines of equal latitude and longitude,&quot; that is, places where the latitude and longitude happen to be numerically equal. It was deleted as useless. I suspect that it probably was, but I find myself incredibly curious to read it. This is all the more so because, while the article itself was deleted, there are quite a few articles on very obscure places (articles that probably very few people would ever read) that state that one or the other such line passes through or near the place.&lt;br&gt;<br /> &quot;So is there an &quot;articles deemed useless&quot; Purgatory or Limbo? [[User:AzseicsoK|Uporządnicki]] ([[User talk:AzseicsoK|talk]]) 02:01, 23 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :{{ping|AzseicsoK}} Hi there! See the [[#Accessing a deleted article]] section above, where we're discussing the same thing. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 02:16, 23 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :{{re|AzseicsoK}} The usual way is to ask the deleting admin, in this case {{u|Courcelles}}, to provide you with a copy. Courtesy links for other editors, the page was [[Lines of equal latitude and longitude]] and the deletion discussion was [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lines of equal latitude and longitude]]. I'll let Courcelles know that they have been mentioned here. [[User:DuncanHill|DuncanHill]] ([[User talk:DuncanHill|talk]]) 02:18, 23 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::{{re|DuncanHill}} Please don't go to any trouble--or put this Courcelles to any trouble. It's idle curiosity--nothing more. There's also the point that Commons actually has two maps of those lines. I found those when I tried Googling the subject; those and some of the Wikipedia articles (as well as a few things that obviously copied those articles) are all I can find. The lines form a kind of figure-eight from the North Pole to the South Pole--meeting, of course, at the fictional [[Null Island]], which does have an article. [[User:AzseicsoK|Uporządnicki]] ([[User talk:AzseicsoK|talk]]) 02:41, 23 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == question re category key, for a category for templates ==<br /> <br /> I'm trying to change the category key used for [[template:Start tab]], as it appears in [[:Category:WikiProject tab header templates]]. The reason for this is that, since this category is used to compile specific tab headers as customized and utilized by individual Wikiprojects, I feel that the generic forms for these templates should be grouped together, at the beginning of this category.<br /> <br /> I tried to change the category key by using the following text to set the category:<br /> <br /> &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Category:WikiProject tab header templates|*]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> <br /> However when you visit the category [[:Category:WikiProject tab header templates]], it appears that this category key has not had any actual visible effect. I don't know why it has not had the usual effect. could you please assist? Please ping me if you reply. thanks. ---[[User:Sm8900|Sm8900]] ([[User talk:Sm8900|talk]]) [[Special:Contributions/Sm8900|🌍]] 03:14, 23 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :The category is added via a transcluded page [[Template:Start tab/doc]]. This often causes a long delay when a category is changed, or a sort key like here. I have made a [[WP:NULL|null edit]] of [[Template:Start tab]] to force an immediate update. A [[WP:PURGE|purge]] would not be enough. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 03:29, 23 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> ::that's good to know. I appreciate your help with that. ---[[User:Sm8900|Sm8900]] ([[User talk:Sm8900|talk]]) [[Special:Contributions/Sm8900|🌍]] 04:28, 23 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == The search box issue ==<br /> <br /> Clicking on the search box isnti responding,why?l &lt;!-- Template:Unsigned IP --&gt;&lt;small class=&quot;autosigned&quot;&gt;—&amp;nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2A03:2880:32FF:16:0:0:FACE:B00C|2A03:2880:32FF:16:0:0:FACE:B00C]] ([[User talk:2A03:2880:32FF:16:0:0:FACE:B00C#top|talk]]) 05:02, 23 January 2022 (UTC)&lt;/small&gt; &lt;!--Autosigned by SineBot--&gt;<br /> :Hi there! It's hard to troubleshoot such an issue when you haven't mentioned any technical details about how you're accessing Wikipedia (e.g. mobile app, mobile view or desktop view, brand of hardware &amp; software). When weird things like that happen to me, I can usually fix them by either [[WP:PURGE#Purge local browser cache|purging my local browser cache]], restarting the browser, or restarting my phone/computer. Hope this helps! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 05:10, 23 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Titling glitch in [[Billy Bishop]] ==<br /> <br /> I find myself unable to make third level subtitles under &quot;World War I&quot; show in title box.[[User:Georgejdorner|Georgejdorner]] ([[User talk:Georgejdorner|talk]]) 06:44, 23 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :{{ping|Georgejdorner}} It says {{tlx|1=TOC limit|2=limit=2}}. Just remove it if you don't want it. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 06:55, 23 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> :: Thanks. I did not think to look to the problem up there.[[User:Georgejdorner|Georgejdorner]] ([[User talk:Georgejdorner|talk]]) 07:00, 23 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I want to make a new article what is the best way to do this ==<br /> <br /> I want to make a new article how. [[User:Quiet2|Quiet2]] ([[User talk:Quiet2|talk]]) 07:34, 23 January 2022 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pregnancy but without sex ==<br /> <br /> How to do it</div> 2A03:2880:30FF:16:0:0:FACE:B00C